Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:26 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

This.

Since Wilkin wants the benefits of being a senior player, not to mention an international, then he must also take the responsibilities. That's part of being a team. IMO neither he nor one or two other senior players have been doing this and that is largely the reason why we slid in confidence once we lost Robes to injury.

Last season almost every time one of our newbies referred to on-field/performance guidance it was either Jammer or Pryce they mentioned. Those have both gone. I don't think anyone has stepped in to take their place but the inexperienced guys are still to play a full season in the first team (Foster excepted) and therefore still need the same support and guidance they needed last year.

I hope Wilkin's shorts come with a pocket so that he can store some bog roll to wipe all the young players arses for the rest of the season.

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:04 pm  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

I hope Wilkin's shorts come with a pocket so that he can store some bog roll to wipe all the young players arses for the rest of the season.

Being a team is about supporting your mates. When those mates are untested in battle then it is up to those who are tested to watch their backs otherwise they don't learn and they put the rest of their mates at risk.

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:34 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Being a team is about supporting your mates. When those mates are untested in battle then it is up to those who are tested to watch their backs otherwise they don't learn and they put the rest of their mates at risk.

I totally agree that being a team is about helping your mates and not wanting to let your mates down.

I think that's what maguire brought to Wigan last year and one of Nathan browns main thing is getting players to play for each other.

I coach a team and I'm massive on working for your mates.

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:51 pm  

St pete wrote:

I totally agree that being a team is about helping your mates and not wanting to let your mates down.

Indeed, and the senior players are aware that they let the inexperienced members of the team down. Listen to Wello on the latest Saints podcast, for example, or read his interview in the St Helens Star.

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:02 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Indeed, and the senior players are aware that they let the inexperienced members of the team down. Listen to Wello on the latest Saints podcast, for example, or read his interview in the St Helens Star.

I won't bother listening to wello on the pod cast after seeing his interview on sky about Royce being sacked.

In his interview he came across all sad that Royce had gone he's a good actor

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:08 pm  

St pete wrote:

I won't bother listening to wello on the pod cast after seeing his interview on sky about Royce being sacked.

No, of course you won't. It wouldn't be convenient for your argument.

In his interview he came across all sad that Royce had gone he's a good actor

He was one of the players who went to visit Royce on Sunday evening, to thank him for making him captain of his home town club. I very much doubt he was acting.

And remember, two players came to Saints in part because Royce was in charge here. Laffranchi is one of them, he's on the podcast too, and he says he is upset because of his relationship with Royce.

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:02 pm  

SomersetSaint wrote:

Not sure how much " on field guidance" pryce gave last year, he was barely on the field himself.

He guided himself to a seat in the stand not to mention a fat contract with Catalans

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:23 am  

SomersetSaint wrote:

Not sure how much " on field guidance" pryce gave last year, he was barely on the field himself.

According to a couple of the inexperienced lads he (and Jammer) gave a lot of advice.

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:31 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

No, of course you won't. It wouldn't be convenient for your argument.

He was one of the players who went to visit Royce on Sunday evening, to thank him for making him captain of his home town club. I very much doubt he was acting.

And remember, two players came to Saints in part because Royce was in charge here. Laffranchi is one of them, he's on the podcast too, and he says he is upset because of his relationship with Royce.

Your correct, wello dud thank him for making him captain of his home town club and rightly so he should thank him as its a great honour for any local lad to captain his town but I feel you don't know all the ins and outs of the last week and half running up to Royce being sacked.

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:41 am  

St pete wrote:

but I feel you don't know all the ins and outs of the last week and half running up to Royce being sacked.

And of course you do. Not too many posts back it was all about the performance and style of rugby. Now there is something going on behind the scenes that I don't know about but you do? C'mon Pete. Even for you that's a bit obvious!