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Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. (Winston Churchill)

Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:18 pm  
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quite frankley a better coached team would have demolished Wigan, however when you have an attack that consists of flinging it wide and hoping, combined with a defence that doesnt know how to turn a player onto his back then you can put all the effort in that you are capable of, but lose against a team that is coached properly.

I would suggest you think about the DW match and reconsider. As Simmons said in his post match interview, we were too lateral in attack. We didn't run on to the ball, we didn't back up, we flung it out wide when we should have struck from the middle. Why did we do these things? Because our halfbacks were missing. Leon Pryce didn't turn up today, made some howlers and in actual fact, due to Wigan's superb defence in the first half, we actually had the wrong stand off on the pitch. We needed Lee Gaskell. We have scored tries from his kicks. Kicking was the only thing that would have given us tries in the first half. Poor old Jon Wilkin tried his hardest but we needed a skilled kicker and he was on the bench. That, IMO, was the only mistake Simmons made as coach today. The rest was down to Wigan and our own players.

What I thought was very encouraging was that we took the game to Wigan and we disrupted them. Damn shame we couldn't make the kill but them's the breaks and I just hope that Roby and Graham playing with serious injuries hasn't ruined our chances of beating Hudds on Friday. That is a very important game for us if we are to get something from this crazy season.

And we do deserve something IMO.
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Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:20 pm  
We're not as good as Warrington or Wigan. 3rd is fine for us, we don't deserve to win anything.
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Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:32 pm  
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We're not as good as Warrington or Wigan. 3rd is fine for us, we don't deserve to win anything.


I wouldn't be sure of 3rd mate.
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Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:51 pm  
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I wouldn't be sure of 3rd mate.

Assuming we can field a team on Friday night, then we will find out whether we deserve to be third on Friday night, won't we? If we lose then we don't deserve it and it's unlikely we will get anything from the season.
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Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:52 pm  
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Assuming we can field a team on Friday night, then we will find out whether we deserve to be third on Friday night, won't we? If we lose then we don't deserve it and it's unlikely we will get anything from the season.


When was the last time we didn't make a final?
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Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:53 pm  
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When was the last time we didn't make a final?

2005 wasn't it? We were undone by injuries to our key players if I remember.
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Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:07 pm  
Near perfect, really?

Numerous knock ons, clueless kicking a lot of the time, stupid penalties.

The game wasw there for you to win today, but you didn't capitalise on your dominance in the first half.
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Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:12 pm  
Firstly, well played. Defensively i thought both teams were excellent today. Both teams looked very nervous, certainly in the first 30.

As mentioned previously in the thread the biggest difference was Sam T v Wellens. You desperatly need a full back with pace. The role of full back has changed significantly since Wellens started playing, with respect to him as he has been a great player over the years for you, his place is at Widnes/Salford now.

I think the other big difference was team selection. You had too many players on the pitch who shouldn't have been there. Maguire chose not to select Hock as he is not up to speed yet. Simmons picked Graham who should never of played. Pryce is a top class player and did his best but was obviously not up to speed.

With a few more bodies nearing full fitness for the play offs you will be in with a shout. Us on the other hand will be knackered by then. Unfortunatly for both of us it may be the year of the wolf :SICK:
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Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:13 pm  
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Near perfect, really?

Numerous knock ons, clueless kicking a lot of the time, stupid penalties.

The game wasw there for you to win today, but you didn't capitalise on your dominance in the first half.


I notice you haven't found your way onto the Wigan board this evening :roll:
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Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:15 pm  
Ron wrote:
Near perfect, really?

Numerous knock ons, clueless kicking a lot of the time, stupid penalties.

The game wasw there for you to win today, but you didn't capitalise on your dominance in the first half.


at least we didnt knock on or give any penalties away :ASK:

for me the 2 best teams in the league there and cancelled each other out.
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