Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:06 pm  

I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong regarding the rules, but is it not against the rules to attack the kicker, but alright to attack the ball. If I'm right, then whether Hoffman was late or not is irrelevant as he quite clearly attacked the kicker. Unless you can attack the ball with a shoulder charge.

Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:35 pm  

Sour Grapes !! Doesn't get a mention if Saints win the game.

Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:48 pm  

warriorweed wrote:

Sour Grapes !! Doesn't get a mention if Saints win the game.

Really? I think the extent of Wheelers injury and the lack of action taken by the officials to halt play would suggest otherwise.

Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:50 pm  

Saint Rabban wrote:

I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong regarding the rules, but is it not against the rules to attack the kicker, but alright to attack the ball. If I'm right, then whether Hoffman was late or not is irrelevant as he quite clearly attacked the kicker. Unless you can attack the ball with a shoulder charge.

That's my understanding, Paul. The rules have changed since Hooperman specialised in it.

Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:05 pm  

Tony Stark wrote:

Really? I think the extent of Wheelers injury and the lack of action taken by the officials to halt play would suggest otherwise.

Its hardly surprising Wheeler got hurt with a bit of contact - he seems to be a player who cant go a couple of games without picking up an injury of some sort. Saying that fingers cross it ain't too bad because he is a talent and doesn't deserve the luck he is getting with injuries..

Surely the fact that none of the officials nor the official in the stand felt the need to call the incident back says that Hoffman was committed and the injury is just an unfortunate aspect.

Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:12 pm  

warriorweed wrote:

Surely the fact that none of the officials nor the official in the stand felt the need to call the incident back says that Hoffman was committed and the injury is just an unfortunate aspect.

Yes, of course. Just as surely as the fact that an official failed to call the forward pass which led to your first try must have meant that the forward pass the whole world saw wasn't in fact a forward pass.

Refs make mistakes/are incompetent (delete as you feel appropriate). In addition, where late tackles on the kicker are concerned, they all interpret 'late' differently.

Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:18 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

:lol:

Yes, of course. Just as surely as the fact that an official failed to call the forward pass which led to your first try must have meant that the forward pass the whole world saw wasn't in fact a forward pass.

Refs make mistakes/are incompetent (delete as you feel appropriate). In addition, where late tackles on the kicker are concerned, they all interpret 'late' differently.

I thought where was a place

Have you watched the game again yet?

Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:43 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Have you watched the game again yet?

Since you are going to harrass me until I give you an answer, because you are little more than an old troll, I watched the game again on Good Friday. What's your point?

Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:52 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Since you are going to harrass me until I give you an answer, because you are little more than an old troll, I watched the game again on Good Friday. What's your point?

He wants to know did you get stopwatch out and time the hoffaman " assault "

Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:53 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Since you are going to harrass me until I give you an answer, because you are little more than an old troll, I watched the game again on Good Friday. What's your point?

Good, then you will have seen that Hoffmans tackle is no later than Gardners. Both players are committed to the tackle, so there was no problem.