Re: Those damn Goons : Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:19 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

:lol:

It was bloody boring to watch! The only reason me and my mates continued to watch it was in the hope that Hudds would actually manage to finish off one of their many try-scoring opportunities. Ten minutes to go and we gave up!

Bloody hell, if that's the way we are going then my watching of rugby league will soon end. Hopefully all the other teams will adopt Tony Smith style approach: great defence but open, attacking rugby league. Save our sport from three man pileys and rolling mauls!

If that is what we will be watching in five years i accept our union overlords

Re: Those damn Goons : Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:34 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I agree that defence is as important as attack but it is the style of defence that I am at odds with. There is no reason for three and four man tackles with the wrestling element to prove a good defence. That is just slowing the game down, presumably to ensure that the handful of really gifted players Wigan actually have can do their business. Wise tactics. However, it makes for a dull match. Warrington can do great defence but they don't do it Wigan's way. Hudds do. Put them together and man, it was boring. Frustrating too, mind you, because Hudds were so incompetent in fulfilling their many opportunities. Had they at least scored more, as they should have done, then the attacking edge would have balanced the defensive dullness to some degree.

No, give me Wire -v- Leeds or Cas -v- us or some other combination of more expansive types of rugby league (and in our case PLEASE NOTE! I am projecting into a hopeful future), with great defence on offer but none of that


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Now tell me great defince is boring.. Saints defended brilliantly and won the game on the back of it!

And I prefer the Warrington version to the Wigan one. In Superleague terms, Wigan -v- Hudds was always going to be a snoozefest for me but I had hoped that Hudds would have been grown up about the matter and not behaved like rabbits in the headlights again. Alas, they still have a significant way to go in conquering their 'big game' nerves.

Re: Those damn Goons : Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:25 pm  

Giz wrote:

Now tell me great defince is boring.. Saints defended brilliantly and won the game on the back of it!

But that match was nothing like Wigan -v- Hudds! It was pacey, it was great attacking rugby league! Wigan -v- Hudds was a snoozefest!

Like I said, you can have great defence but still have great open, attacking rugby.

Re: Those damn Goons : Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:49 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

But that match was nothing like Wigan -v- Hudds! It was pacey, it was great attacking rugby league! Wigan -v- Hudds was a snoozefest!

Like I said, you can have great defence but still have great open, attacking rugby.

No it was error strewn with no structure. Wigan or Huddersfield would have beaten both those those teams by 12 points.
If you want to watch games like that I suggest you go watch basketball or in your case netball.

Saints were by far the better team btw.

Re: Those damn Goons : Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:51 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Wigan or Huddersfield would have beaten both those those teams by 12 points.

Yeah, like you did in Cardiff you mean?

If that is what 'no structure' means then give me no structure any day of the week. I just loved that match. That's my kind of rugby league. You can keep your unionesque style if it suits.

Re: Those damn Goons : Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:33 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Of course the coach isn't irrelevant! I just think some of the things that have been said by some people on here and on other threads are really stupid.

It's good of you to admit it

Re: Those damn Goons : Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:44 pm  

Orrell Lad wrote:

It's good of you to admit it

Oh, not me. I was fully in support of Royce Simmons. So I'm enjoying the fact that it would appear the coach was not the problem; the team was the problem. Or, more to the point, the attitude of the team was the problem.

Me, I'm just feeling smug about saying the sensible stuff on here for once!

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Those damn Goons : Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:21 pm  

Whenever I want a good laugh on here I just make sure I have a read of what SaintsFan says because it has zero relevance to reality - Wigan scored more tries than any other team last season - not bad for such a defensive, boring team eh?

Sometimes you have to play the cards you have been dealt, which is what Wigan did last night and what Saints did tonight given the players they both had missing - both teams taking account of which team they were playing and what strengths and weaknesses their own players had, as well as the opposition. Both in their own way were utterly ruthless and clinical and it's games like these that will determine where we both are in the mix at the end of the season.

Re: Those damn Goons : Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:29 pm  

Wigan/Leeds Andy wrote:

Whenever I want a good laugh on here I just make sure I have a read of what SaintsFan says because it has zero relevance to reality - Wigan scored more tries than any other team last season - not bad for such a defensive, boring team eh?

Kerching! Wrong! WE did!

But even if you had, that wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference. Your method of doing so with your stifling defence would still have bored me to sleep.

It's all a matter of taste. But I'm on the open attacking play side, with a good defence obviously.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Those damn Goons : Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:46 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Kerching! Wrong! WE did!

But even if you had, that wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference. Your method of doing so with your stifling defence would still have bored me to sleep.

It's all a matter of taste. But I'm on the open attacking play side, with a good defence obviously.

You're right (always a first time eh?), we were until the last couple of games. Anyway still not bad for such a boring team. Who would have thought such a boring defensive team had the two top try scorers who were both wingers? We all know there's nothing a defensive boring team love more than playing expansive rugby and getting ball out to their wingers.

If we're so boring, what does that make Saints given you only scored 8 more tries last season?