Re: Was It a drop goal for Brough : Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:22 pm  

What we can,t be sure of is if the drop goal stood would it had been the definitive final outcome of the game.
Saints kept there composure played the full 80 mins had one chance of a drop goal attempt and took it, Giants had 4 attempts and the rest is history.

Re: Was It a drop goal for Brough : Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:02 pm  

I've just watched it and I can't make my mind up.

I understand the point about going to the VR, but there's no conclusive angle that shows it definitely was a goal, or that it definitely wasn't. So how would the VR have decided it?

Bentham was stood in a great position, so surely it's the refs call in that case.

Re: Was It a drop goal for Brough : Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:17 pm  

I think Bentham should have gone to the screen 100%.

At the ground I wasn't sure but watching the TV replays the screen showed an inconclusive decision for me, therefore no goal.

I think Giants fans (and others who clearly want us out) should lay them blame for the defeat with the brain fart from Ferres.

His stupidity was the defining moment of the 80 minutes for me.

Giants will miss him and Brough for the next few weeks.

Re: Was It a drop goal for Brough : Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:32 pm  

Over or not it would not be enough to make the win solid.

Personally I though the spear tackle is what killed the game for Huddersfield. Without it I thought we looked very rough as a team and they would have won without a drop goal.

I've looked and looked and basically I can't decided. As we get 2 versions one is over one is not and we have no idea where the ball is in relation to the ground. All the Huddersfield fans are sat on the sides and so have very poor angles, Saints fans are miles away.

Brough turns his back before it goes over. The ref says no, Walsh says yes.

I still think we were lucky to win, but I'll never be able to say for certain after watching it about 10 times it's still debatable.

Re: Was It a drop goal for Brough : Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:02 pm  

TheSaints87 wrote:

Honestly I have no idea. Are you definitely allowed to go to VR for drop goal attempts?

I was listening today and its definite yes he could have gone to the Video.Was it that close to call in all your opinions?if so Bentham made an error by not using the technology.It was permissible to use

Re: Was It a drop goal for Brough : Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:07 pm  

lionarmour87 wrote:

I was listening today and its definite yes he could have gone to the Video.Was it that close to call in all your opinions?if so Bentham made an error by not using the technology.It was permissible to use

Well at the end of the day my opinion is that i am still unsure. How some can say it is clearly one or the other is plain ignorant. We had two camera angles, one showing it go over; one not. However, Bentham saw something none of us saw and so i feel if he didn't think suitable to go the VR then it mustn't have gone over or he is biased and wanted Saints to win. I am a firm believer that no refs are like that though. It's their job and i bet they go out there hoping to get every call right.

Re: Was It a drop goal for Brough : Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:11 pm  

on the balance of things it probably was a goal. Will anyone care by August? doubtful

It may become to Hudds what Joynts "tackle" was to Bradford

Re: Was It a drop goal for Brough : Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:15 pm  

On first viewing I thought it went over, the more I watch it, the more unsure I am.

Re: Was It a drop goal for Brough : Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:24 pm  

TheSaints87 wrote:

Well at the end of the day my opinion is that i am still unsure. How some can say it is clearly one or the other is plain ignorant. We had two camera angles, one showing it go over; one not. However, Bentham saw something none of us saw and so i feel if he didn't think suitable to go the VR then it mustn't have gone over or he is biased and wanted Saints to win. I am a firm believer that no refs are like that though. It's their job and i bet they go out there hoping to get every call right.

Of course ref's aren't biased ,but its what you get on these forums

Re: Was It a drop goal for Brough : Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:26 pm  

I'm 80:20 that it did. I can't see why they couldn't come up with some technology to prove it either way though. For example send a beam of light up from the posts see if that's breached.

I'm not suggesting we need this technology at games, but just to prove whether it was or it wasn't. I'd love to see someone prove it wasn't just to show all the reactionists crying foul on here and twitter.