Re: Meli to Salford confirmed... : Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:25 pm  

saintcj wrote:

I fear we won't find anyone as good let alone better than meli.

Nothing new there then. We Prob not replace him at all.

Re: Meli to Salford confirmed... : Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:56 pm  

St pete wrote:

Nothing new there then. We Prob not replace him at all.

Why the obsession with buying anyone? We have Makinson and Swift to play there. Also wing is not a position I would personally spend much cap space on anyway as it is the perfect position to blood young backs from the academy. These players will get first team experience without the full on pressure of the more central positions.

Re: Meli to Salford confirmed... : Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:29 pm  

Top Saint wrote:

Why the obsession with buying anyone? We have Makinson and Swift to play there. Also wing is not a position I would personally spend much cap space on anyway as it is the perfect position to blood young backs from the academy. These players will get first team experience without the full on pressure of the more central positions.

No obsession mate. I just rather saints started to replace players every now and then. Every man and his dog knew that finding players to replace the likes of long, gidley, scully, pryce and KC would make or break our immediate future.

I'm all for youth but we can't keep saying we don't need to replace this player and that player because of youth because its back fired so far.

Tyrer - the next Jamie Lyon

Ashurst & Dixon to be the backrow for 10 years.

Lee Gaskell to replace pryce

Eastmond to replace long

Emmitt - the next James Graham


How many games as swift played exactly? Who's he played against? If your so sure based on few games against mediocre teams then you should be scouting for saints.

Re: Meli to Salford confirmed... : Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:09 pm  

I have no problem when fans demand class replacements for the main pivot positions. Youth players capable of playing those positions will have played many first team games, in less pressure positions, and proved that they have the ability and can handle the pressure. However, for the reasons I gave earlier, wing is not a position I would personally spend any major cap money on, unless the player concerned has come through our own youth system. Even then it would not be mega money.

Re: Meli to Salford confirmed... : Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:14 pm  

St pete wrote:

How many games as swift played exactly? Who's he played against? If your so sure based on few games against mediocre teams then you should be scouting for saints.

I think he has shown promise in that position and should have been given more game time against better opposition. That way we could all have made a more balanced judgement. As it is, we have had a taster and it has left us wondering could he be our next full time winger.

As for being a scout

I'm happy letting the current scouts find the next generation. They are doing a far better job than I, or anybody else on here, could possibly do.

Re: Meli to Salford confirmed... : Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:07 pm  

Top Saint wrote:

I think he has shown promise in that position and should have been given more game time against better opposition. That way we could all have made a more balanced judgement. As it is, we have had a taster and it has left us wondering could he be our next full time winger.

As for being a scout

I'm happy letting the current scouts find the next generation. They are doing a far better job than I, or anybody else on here, could possibly do.

Do you not think its a risk if swift turns out rubbish ?

A few games doesn't make you a automatic replacement for meli. We've signed the best cross field kicker in the world and will have two wingers that ain't even 6ft if swift plays there.

Re: Meli to Salford confirmed... : Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:35 pm  

St pete wrote:

Do you not think its a risk if swift turns out rubbish ?

A few games doesn't make you a automatic replacement for meli. We've signed the best cross field kicker in the world and will have two wingers that ain't even 6ft if swift plays there.

The simple fact where youth is concerned is that there is no guarantee of success. How the young players progress is as much down to the players attitude as it is their ability. If he has the right attitude he will be a good player. His ability will determine whether he will be a great player. I would like to see more of him to see if he has both attitude and ability. He may have, he may not have, but one way or another we need to see more of him.

Re: Meli to Salford confirmed... : Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:56 pm  

Top Saint wrote:

The simple fact where youth is concerned is that there is no guarantee of success. How the young players progress is as much down to the players attitude as it is their ability. If he has the right attitude he will be a good player. His ability will determine whether he will be a great player. I would like to see more of him to see if he has both attitude and ability. He may have, he may not have, but one way or another we need to see more of him.

I just think taking a risk on a untried youngster is massive gamble in our current squad. We need to replace with quality at the moment to get back up there.

Re: Meli to Salford confirmed... : Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:38 pm  

I get both sides of this. Wingers are a bit of a luxury at the moment. But the player drain effect is also emphasised by this..

IF we get a 6 and a prop or 2. Then I have no issue waiting another year for a winger.

If we get no winger, no 6 and no other props. If Masoe and Walsh are it then the numbers in and out seam to not match up.

TP/Meli/Perry/Wellens/ Gaskell / Ade / Laffranchi??

Masoe/Walsh/Beaumont/ The other fella???

Re: Meli to Salford confirmed... : Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:02 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

I get both sides of this. Wingers are a bit of a luxury at the moment. But the player drain effect is also emphasised by this..

IF we get a 6 and a prop or 2. Then I have no issue waiting another year for a winger.

If we get no winger, no 6 and no other props. If Masoe and Walsh are it then the numbers in and out seam to not match up.

TP/Meli/Perry/Wellens/ Gaskell / Ade / Laffranchi??

Masoe/Walsh/Beaumont/ The other fella???

The other fella = matt Dawson