Re: Rush new CEO : Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:24 am  

CEO is a fancy way of saying Managing Director, so whilst you may doubt his qualification for financial or marketing reasons - he wont be the one filling those roles, he'll just be responsible for making sure the folks employed are doing their job to the best of their ability. In order to do this, he needs to know about as many different facets of running a rugby club. As Dux says, Rush has quite a unique range of experience regarding this, so as long as he has enough of an idea not to let the finance department pull the wool over his eyes, I wouldn't panic.

Apart from his general smarts and judgement, his success in this role will depend on the following -
Knowledge of his Industry.
Work rate and commitment to the role.
The standards he sets/expects from his team.

I don't particulary worry about any of those facets of Rush's character, so perhaps he'll make a decent fist of it?

Re: Rush new CEO : Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:31 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

I think there is a bit of double standards here. Surprise surprise!!!

People have started calling for an improvement in recruitment, saying that we have not been the same since a Rugby man was in control of getting new players. A rugby man is appointed and suddenly everyone is worrying about the finance side of things.

CEO is not the same role as head coach. So regardless of our thoughts on his time as head coach, this has no reflection on him as a CEO.

I do think he is a St. Helens man and he wants to do what is best for St. Helens. I don't think we should fall into the trap of thinking that people are trying to undermine St. Helens on purpose. There is no long conspiracy.

Part of this is down to peoples lack of reasonable expectations, linked in to strange recruitment in the halfbacks.

Hopefully he can go well and put us back where we need to be.

Most sensible thing I've read on this thread. (Your sig is the lease sensible thing I've read on the thread though.)

Re: Rush new CEO : Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:45 am  

No one says he is not a nice guy, but I do think he is a McManus man! and for one person that is all that counts! We have a nice guy but his background is in marketing & at the top, but.....in cricket and it shows!

Re: Rush new CEO : Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:45 am  

Top Saint wrote:

Am I McManus now then?

You're not the messiah, you're a very naughty boy

Re: Rush new CEO : Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:55 am  

I think given the roles Rush has had at Saints, he is more than capable of seeing over the next part of our transition into the best team in Super League.

Give him chance folks, it seems some are quick to deem Rush as a failure before he has even fully taken his opportunity as CEO.

Re: Rush new CEO : Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:55 pm  

I think the deeming him a failure comes back to last year. I too was frustrated with the stagnation that we had last year.

BUT

When you look at stagnation compared to the decline in the first part of 2012, then stagnation was in fact an improvement.

I think it's always hard to be dispassionate about sport, but that passion can cloud our expectations. For me last year was all about a holding pattern. Rush was asked to do that and did it. Job done. This job has nothing to do with last year and most fans would never have know who he was if it was not for last year.

Re: Rush new CEO : Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:17 pm  

He's been in the job for less than 24 hours and the cladding announcement is made. The man is clearly a hero on the rampage to resolve the key issues at the club.

Well done Rushy!

Now, operation cladgate is progressing well, can we accelerate operation 'bring the half back' now?

Re: Rush new CEO : Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:44 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I haven't forgotten that at all. But he's first and foremost a businessman (top 50 banker in his prime) and he will want to protect his assets. Surrounding himself with buddies is the way forward in that regard.

I'm getting very weary of hearing the 'we must be grateful to McManus for bailing us out' line. It is out of date. If he wants the fans to be forever grateful then he'll soon learn a lesson in humankind because there is only so much gratitude to go around. Once the gratitude well runs dry, less admirable feelings can take their place.

But I am sure that McManus will not want fans to be endlessly grateful to him for doing exactly what he wanted to do for himself. I am sure he knows human nature much better than that.

I'm very grateful to him, but the again I have been a supporter for 30 odd years not a few like some. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want eternal gratitude either but he does deserve a lot more respect than some numptys on here are giving him!!

Re: Rush new CEO : Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:45 pm  

St_Cunningham_no9 wrote:

You're not the messiah, you're a very naughty boy

Re: Rush new CEO : Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:03 pm  

Top Saint wrote:

I'm very grateful to him, but the again I have been a supporter for 30 odd years not a few like some. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want eternal gratitude either but he does deserve a lot more respect than some numptys on here are giving him!!

I missed that little line.

So bailing us out over a period of what was it 6 or 7 seasons, then raising the funding to build a £20million stadium buys you exactly 1 year of gratitude.

And not even that from some quarters.

I understand the discussion about recruitment but there is a split between questioning recruitment in terms of sound decision making and commitment to the cause.

I have no doubt on his commitment to the cause and it would take a seriously long run of very poor results before I started calling for him to go.

Trust me we have had nothing like a long run of seriously poor results. To me that would equate to a similar position as to what Castleford find themselves in on a regular basis.