Re: Supporters coach : Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:19 am  

subwaysav wrote:

most annoying to read about coaches being attacked our club (fc) need to put pressure on the police to do something about it ! very sad that this is the impression you saints fans have of us.always thought we had abit of mutual respect after that semi final a few yrs ago

To be fair mate, it's hard to show respect when our fans are getting bricked.

Re: Supporters coach : Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:23 am  

bewareshadows;

The ticket price thing has been done to death, away fans get the second cheapest area of the ground, home fans pay less for the same view as their tickets are been subsidised by the owner. Bottom line is if your happy to pay £20 for an open terrace at Leeds you can't complain with £23 for the best stadium in RL.

As for the trouble, the fact you have personally been affected makes your reason for to going valid and understandable, no fans should have to deal with that. I myself had my car smashed up by Leeds thugs and I live in Leeds.

But even with all the excuses, if Hull was closer more people would go, simple as.

Re: Supporters coach : Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:34 am  

Airlie Street wrote:

I'll address a few points people seem to be ignoring.

It is a legal requirement to put on police escorts for official supporters coaches at the football (part of the scheme to encourage people to travel in the aftermath of the hooligan era). It is the home club that foots the bill, hence no rugby league club does it because it's too expensive and not compulsory.

Hull would LOOSE money given an average away following, (running costs to open the north stand, extra staff and now police escorts), would not be covered by 300 people paying £23.

I agree something needs to be done about it but while it's not the clubs fans causing the trouble, it's not the clubs responsibility and it would cost the club money to fix it, I don't see what you want them to do.

On another point don't pretend it's the reason you don't travel to Hull, you don't travel because it's too far, everyone else (excluding the expansion teams) is within an hour or so in the car, so when it comes to missing the odd away fixture the Hull ones are top of the list. Away followings to Hull are appaling and have been for years, make all the excuses you like but if it was 15 minutes down the road there would been thousands of saints fans today not the 500 or so that turned up.

I would suggest that it IS the clubs responsibility to do something about it.You have a problem with supporters coaches leaving your ground being damaged.Had the window been the drivers who knows what might have happened.The club and the police should sit down and work this problem out.Every supporter is entitled to a safe environment.

FWIW I have travelled to Hull every year for the past 6.Allways parked on the official car park and never once had any trouble.I for one don't have problems with away matches at hull

Re: Supporters coach : Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:02 am  

All clubs should take responsibility for the safety of visiting fans. I refused to visit Warrington for a few seasons due to having the coach I was travelling on come under attack from the local idiots. The last time I went there was trouble there too, so yes it puts me off travelling to Warrington. We got spat on at Leeds so it puts me off going there. I don't go to Craven Park. If rugby league wants to maintain its family centred reputation, ALL clubs need to help each other and try to eradicate problems. I still haven't read exactly where the coach was bricked, anyone read where yet?

Re: Supporters coach : Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:19 pm  

leeds owl wrote:

There's no need to apologise, Hull is voted the ringpiece of England for good reason. Grubby little chavs stuck in the 80's.

As a man in my early fifties and much travelled around the country over the last 30 years or so, i can honestly say your comment about Hull smacks of someone who says things which suit their own argument but actualy bears no relevance to the actual facts .
During my travels throughout the UK i have seen the best and the worst of various cities, Hull has far more going for it than many of those others visited.
Unfortunately there will always be idiots like you who prefer Stereotyping a whole city because of the actions of a few mindless morons who unfortunately reside in most small and large cities, i'll bet you have never even bothered to actualy come and have a proper look and sample Hull and its culture, perhaps you should before making such Disingenuous assertions.

Re: Supporters coach : Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:27 pm  

All my visits to Hull were from the early 80's through to Super league. Never been since summer rugby, for various reasons, but in all my visits ( including coach and car ) I never really felt threatened. My only incident was at the boulevard on a Wednesday night and I was stood with my mates behind the posts. Next thing we knew a massive bloke in a hull top started throwing insults left, right and centre. He was lead away by Police across the front of the terracing to a massive chorus of Boo's. He was closer to me than was comfortable but he never got violent with anybody.

Re: Supporters coach : Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:43 pm  

Even hull fc fans aren't thick enough to wear the black and white shirts when the smash the opposing teams supporters coach,how thick do you think we are.??

Re: Supporters coach : Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:29 pm  

Very sad to hear about the coach incident yesterday. However I can't understand people bagging the FC fans and Hull in general.
As usual I had a couple of enjoyable days in Hull. Never experienced any trouble or felt intimidated in any way. Plenty of banter though, especially after some of the one-sided score lines there have been.
Post match had a tasty curry in the Cinnamon on Anlaby Road, followed by a stroll around the marina, and even walked through the derelict graveyard by the Whittington and Cat pub.

Re: Supporters coach : Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:01 pm  

I have been travelling to Humberside since around 1980 to watch Saints. I have never had any grief at all at Hull FC either at The Boulevard or at The KC. I have had quite a few pub crawls down Analby Road pre match and again never encountered any trouble.

The only places I have seen or had any trouble was at both the old and new Craven Park's which I have never found to be particularly friendly and a mate of mine was assaulted when we were teenagers by a by a bloke more than double our age. That said it hasn't stopped me from going there either.

I think its difficult for the club to control the actions of scumbags way away from the ground. I remember our coaches used to get a police escort out of the city, maybe they should reinstate this.

Re: Supporters coach : Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:27 am  

Firstly as I think I said in my own post, I have not once labelled this at the door of Hull FC fans. It's an issue with the locals, but unfortunatley Hull FC play in Hull so the problems are tied together.

I do think the club could provide advise for travelling support and make the police aware of their concerns about their (HULL FC) club games being targetted by the locals for hooliganism.

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