Re: Makinson : Thu May 24, 2012 7:28 pm  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

Foster achieved much more and looked a much better player in his first year in the team than Makinson has to date.

Not true, and given that Makinson is younger than Foster and has yet to actually play in the first team for a year your statement is even more ridiculous.

Foster was very good for the period he played in 2010 and for last season. He went to pieces this season for whatever reason. Makinson, meanwhile, is also looking very good. It is a great shame he was injured last week as that will surely rule him out of playing against Wigan and since he was one of our best players against Wigan last time we will miss him.

Re: Makinson : Thu May 24, 2012 8:21 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

To be fair, i've never seen any evidence of this "attitude". Yes he has a 12 yr olds hair cut, but so what, have you seen Sia's barnet recently???
Purely based on rugby i dont think he's good enough, even his kicking has gone downhill this year and Makinson isnt a bad kicker either. I hope im wrong and he comes back and rips the league apart, but i cant see it

Didn't someone on here predict that the "golden generation " of youth wouldn't all make it?

I'm sure someone said that foster, Dixon, ashurst would end up playing at Salford and I'm sure that person was crucified on here for saying it.

Re: Makinson : Thu May 24, 2012 10:26 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Not true

No, absolutely 100% true. As usual it's a truth you've decided you want to ignore as Makinson is irrevocably locked in your "good player regardless" column while Foster goes in the other inescapable category, but no less a truth nevertheless. Foster was a scoring machine in his first year with ball and boot, solid in defence, utterly bulletproof under bombs and generally impressive in all respects. Makinson has been inconsistent and usually a bit unthreatening and average looking in the same spell (although admittedly on Saints' desolate, dusty, windswept wing). Pace aside (and I do appreciate that that is the only attribute the numpty brigade are ever capable of judging any player on, especially backs, and so that alone makes him automatically a better player than Foster could ever be) he generally looks a lesser player right now than Foster did 12 months ago.

Re: Makinson : Thu May 24, 2012 10:32 pm  

St pete wrote:

Didn't someone on here predict that the "golden generation " of youth wouldn't all make it?

I'm sure someone said that foster, Dixon, ashurst would end up playing at Salford and I'm sure that person was crucified on here for saying it.

Me too actually, on many an occasion. And yes, you do get mocked and derided when you point out that 18/19 year olds who come in and have a good spell in the team don't usually end up with a career at the top of SL 5 years later and that a more level-headed assessment of their prospects is needed and experienced quality players retained as well, but I have the inner warmth of always being right to comfort me through such times. Meanwhile, let's all clamour for Meli, Wilkin, Perry and Shenton to be booted out the door immediately unceremoniously and for them be permanently replaced by Makinson, Gaskell, Dixon and Jones instead, eh?

Re: Makinson : Thu May 24, 2012 10:33 pm  

St pete wrote:

Didn't someone on here predict that the "golden generation " of youth wouldn't all make it?

I'm sure someone said that foster, Dixon, ashurst would end up playing at Salford and I'm sure that person was crucified on here for saying it.

Is it Easter???

Re: Makinson : Fri May 25, 2012 5:14 pm  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

No, absolutely 100% true. As usual it's a truth you've decided you want to ignore as Makinson is irrevocably locked in your "good player regardless" column while Foster goes in the other inescapable category,

You are talking childish tosh again.

I've been a supporter of Jamie Foster on here ever since he made his debut in the first team under Potter. That is widely known and widely evidenced.

I am also a supporter of Tommy Makinson. That is also widely known and widely evidenced. We will miss Makinson against Wigan on Sunday.

Re: Makinson : Fri May 25, 2012 5:16 pm  

Ade is back though!!

Re: Makinson : Fri May 25, 2012 5:35 pm  

St pete wrote:

Didn't someone on here predict that the "golden generation " of youth wouldn't all make it?

I'm sure someone said that foster, Dixon, ashurst would end up playing at Salford and I'm sure that person was crucified on here for saying it.

If the youth system can bring through a good player every year or two, then it's doing ok. The wish for it to produce 5 or 6 good players every year is pie in the sky.

Re: Makinson : Fri May 25, 2012 6:00 pm  

SomersetSaint wrote:

If the youth system can bring through a good player every year or two, then it's doing ok. The wish for it to produce 5 or 6 good players every year is pie in the sky.

Exactly!

You've got to be very very lucky to produce a home grown kids that goes on and wins things like Leeds did.

It irritates the crap out of me when I see/hear people go on about we don't needed to replace certain players as we've got a 20 year old kid that's played 10 first team games to replace them.

I think most saints fans bought into the the whole youth thing that saints was spinning but at the end of the day it was us doing things on the cheap.

I remember a game few years back when we beat cas at home and fielded a pretty young team and this board went into melt down. When I stated that prob one or two will ever make it to super league level I was slated!

Few years on and I think only lomax is still playing

Re: Makinson : Fri May 25, 2012 6:09 pm  

St pete wrote:

Exactly!

You've got to be very very lucky to produce a home grown kids that goes on and wins things like Leeds did.

It irritates the crap out of me when I see/hear people go on about we don't needed to replace certain players as we've got a 20 year old kid that's played 10 first team games to replace them.

I think most saints fans bought into the the whole youth thing that saints was spinning but at the end of the day it was us doing things on the cheap.

I remember a game few years back when we beat cas at home and fielded a pretty young team and this board went into melt down. When I stated that prob one or two will ever make it to super league level I was slated!

Few years on and I think only lomax is still playing

Did Roby not make it????