Re: Fans top 3 hated Wigan players of all time !!! : Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:32 pm  

Get a dvd of the 2004 Cup Final and watch Scullys "tackle" on Kevin Brown. Faz was bigger, faster, stronger, a better kicker.

Look at their respective points scoring records. Game set and match.

Re: Fans top 3 hated Wigan players of all time !!! : Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:33 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

Farrell was a good player , as a prop or second row. TBH he should have been at prop well before the last season when he was shifted there. He fancied himself as a standoff which he clearly wasnt. Scully was a proper ball playing loose forward ...

I think Andy Faz was very overrated but I put that down to the muppets on sky building him up to be something he wasn't and he's pron my most hated Wigan player for that reason but I suppose Eddie and stevo turned me against him getting hard on over him.

I must admit he was very good in his first full season at Wigan and was possibly world class in that last season as a prop.

Re: Fans top 3 hated Wigan players of all time !!! : Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:36 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Get a dvd of the 2004 Cup Final and watch Scullys "tackle" on Kevin Brown. Faz was bigger, faster, stronger, a better kicker.

Look at their respective points scoring records. Game set and match.

I think I'm pretty fair in assessing players no matter who they play for, I might not like certain players but I'm big enough to say they are good players but I don't think Faz was a patch on scully.

Re: Fans top 3 hated Wigan players of all time !!! : Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:37 pm  

St pete wrote:

I think Andy Faz was very overrated but I put that down to the muppets on sky building him up to be something he wasn't and he's pron my most hated Wigan player for that reason but I suppose Eddie and stevo turned me against him getting hard on over him.

I must admit he was very good in his first full season at Wigan and was possibly world class in that last season as a prop.

Should we put it on the "to be discussed list" for GF. The way we are going we'll be pi$$ed and watch the game in the club on t.v.

Re: Fans top 3 hated Wigan players of all time !!! : Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:40 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Should we put it on the "to be discussed list" for GF. The way we are going we'll be pi$$ed and watch the game in the club on t.v.

I think Faz was good player but was built up to be something he wasn't. I think he was a top class club level player but a average international. Id have had him at saints in a shot tho.

Re: Fans top 3 hated Wigan players of all time !!! : Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:42 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Get a dvd of the 2004 Cup Final and watch Scullys "tackle" on Kevin Brown. Faz was bigger, faster, stronger, a better kicker.

Look at their respective points scoring records. Game set and match.

Now your grasping at straws, Scully was certainly smaller but I wouldnt be too sure he was weaker, he was certainly stronger in defence and had more skill going forward, Farrell relied on his size and bulk more (I admit nobody could throw a 30 yard forward pass quite like Farrell). As for kicking, Farrell was Wigans undesputed no1 , Scully didnt like the job and did it when he had too. For GB they were both worth a spot, Faz in the second row, prop as he got older Scully as 13 every single time. If I had to choose between them I'd have Scully in my team every day of the week.

Re: Fans top 3 hated Wigan players of all time !!! : Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:46 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

Now your grasping at straws, Scully was certainly smaller but I wouldnt be too sure he was weaker, he was certainly stronger in defence and had more skill going forward, Farrell relied on his size and bulk more (I admit nobody could throw a 30 yard forward pass quite like Farrell). As for kicking, Farrell was Wigans undesputed no1 , Scully didnt like the job and did it when he had too. For GB they were both worth a spot, Faz in the second row, prop as he got older Scully as 13 every single time. If I had to choose between them I'd have Scully in my team every day of the week.

Scully had his best great Britain games at stand off. I recall one of the Aussies post match saying he was in the top three players in the world.

Re: Fans top 3 hated Wigan players of all time !!! : Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:50 pm  

St pete wrote:

Scully had his best great Britain games at stand off. I recall one of the Aussies post match saying he was in the top three players in the world.

He was called the English Brad Fittler iirc who ironically also played 6 & 13 . Back when a 13 was a 13 not a prop

Re: Fans top 3 hated Wigan players of all time !!! : Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:55 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

Now your grasping at straws, Scully was certainly smaller but I wouldnt be too sure he was weaker, he was certainly stronger in defence and had more skill going forward, Farrell relied on his size and bulk more (I admit nobody could throw a 30 yard forward pass quite like Farrell). As for kicking, Farrell was Wigans undesputed no1 , Scully didnt like the job and did it when he had too. For GB they were both worth a spot, Faz in the second row, prop as he got older Scully as 13 every single time. If I had to choose between them I'd have Scully in my team every day of the week.

Don't forget when Faz started at Wigan they had a goalkicker called Botica. Farrell captained the GB / England team with Scully in it.

If I had the choice I would have Farrell before Scully any time but would love to have both of them.
Oh and we didn't have to buy Farrell.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, no problem with that is there.

Re: Fans top 3 hated Wigan players of all time !!! : Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:51 pm  

1: Kelvin Skerrit(complete madman)
2: Gareth Hock(allowed back)
3: Terry Newton(obvious why but respect for the dead etc)
While we're on about Bailey and cowardice its easy to post online but saying it to his face would be a different matter. Who's the coward? Don't like him myself but he'll retire having won at least 5 gfs which'll be more than any of us achieve