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Re: St Helens biggest ever flop !!! : Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:58 pm  
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whoah there cowboy, i'll raise you Mr Scott Gibbs

Ok I will remove Gibbs from the list of lousy trogs, he was one that worked out reasonably well, but in a tit for tat retaliation will throw roger Owen into the bag of useless welch gets.
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Re: St Helens biggest ever flop !!! : Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:09 pm  
Josh Perry is without a doubt the biggest ever flop that you have signed from overseas,he won't have come cheap either
He's spent more time on the sidelines than some of your season ticket holders :lol:
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Re: St Helens biggest ever flop !!! : Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:10 pm  
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Totally made up story!


Hence why I said "The story's probably BS"
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Re: St Helens biggest ever flop !!! : Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:22 pm  
Shocking thread - x factorish.
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Re: St Helens biggest ever flop !!! : Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:32 pm  
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Josh Perry is without a doubt the biggest ever flop that you have signed from overseas,he won't have come cheap either
He's spent more time on the sidelines than some of your season ticket holders :lol:

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Re: St Helens biggest ever flop !!! : Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:29 pm  
Mike Carrington and Darrell Trindall stand out for me. I think I've done more on the pitch for Saints over the course of my career than Carrington ever did. The fact that Hanley thought that Tommy God needed to be replaced with Tricky shows how much we lucked out winning the GF with him as coach too. Throw in Andy Dannatt (came with a big reputation and probably big money to replace the legend that was Wardie and stunk out the joint) if you want a forward too.

The people listing Stuart Evans (devastating in spells when he was occasionally fit) and Perry (give the guy a bloody chance!) are well out of order frankly.
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Re: St Helens biggest ever flop !!! : Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:30 pm  
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Re: St Helens biggest ever flop !!! : Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:30 am  
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Josh Perry is without a doubt the biggest ever flop that you have signed from overseas,he won't have come cheap either
He's spent more time on the sidelines than some of your season ticket holders :lol:


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Re: St Helens biggest ever flop !!! : Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:52 am  
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Josh Perry is without a doubt the biggest ever flop that you have signed from overseas,he won't have come cheap either
He's spent more time on the sidelines than some of your season ticket holders :lol:

As Ski says, the irony of havinf Trent Barratt as your user name and avatar and then posting about flops is just too much to take :lol:
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Re: St Helens biggest ever flop !!! : Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:24 am  
Webbo wrote:
Going back a fair few years before that, we sent scouts to watch a young winger at Preston Grasshoppers, a right flyer.

Reports came back that he'd had a decent all round game, and rumours were that wi*an were also dead keen on him. We signed him up straight away, full of delight about getting one over on the Pies, unaware that for the match we'd seen, Dave Tanner had replaced the injured Mark Preston.

Preston went on to have a great few years at wi*an, scoring shedloads of tries. Dave Tanner forged an unspectacular career at Saints as a mediocre utility player.


Tanner was unspectacular - but he was not mediocre. Tanner's problem was pace - or lack thereof. Which presents certain challenges when you're occupying a wing berth in a post-Offiah era where clubs are falling over themselves to acquire the (often dubious) talents of RU speedsters.

It's difficult to accurately express the sense of utter hopelessness one felt scanning the teamsheet at martial bearpits such as Craven Park or Thrum Hall, where you knew Saints needed plenty of quick points on the board in order to demoralise the local pack of mountain trolls, only to discover your right centre/wing combo is Mark this-ball-is-mine-and-I'll-be-damned-before-I-pass-it-to-anyone Bailey and David Tanner.

That said, Murphy loved Tanner - and not without some justification. He was reliable and made very, very few mistakes (handling, positional play etc). He was an outstanding tackler. Indeed, outside of Gary Connolly and Scott Gibbs I don't think I've seen a better defensive back in a Saints shirt (he absolutely pole-axed Karl Harrison and left him on a stretcher with nothing more than an orthodox front-on tackle). He offered a lot of utility and in an injury crisis could occupy (albeit slooowly) any spot from one to six. Finally, he could kick goals.

Look, by no stretch of the imagination was Tanner a runaway success. But when you take into account the number of games he played, his versatility and the paltry sums it took to sign and retain him I'd argue he was pretty good value for money.
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