Re: Salary cap amendment : Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:29 pm  

morleys_deckchair wrote:

It's a good point..... and it makes you wonder how many of the lower clubs will be able to make the most of this rule... my guess is none.

It's probably just going to benefit the bigger clubs, who already have a massive advantage.

The salary cap was introduced to create parity..... this new rule would appear to contradict the whole point of the cap.

It also gets certain clubs, who have been flouting the cap off the hook. They can now stop pretending.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:37 pm  

It's a shame that the Sam Tomkins announcement has sort of hidden the really big announcement at Wigan this week. viewtopic.php?f=28&t=511931

It's a shame that the Sam Tomkins announcement has sort of hidden the really big announcement at Wigan this week. viewtopic.php?f=28&t=511931

Re: Salary cap amendment : Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:41 pm  

Ovavoo wrote:

It also gets certain clubs, who have been flouting the cap off the hook. They can now stop pretending.

you're right...... it wouldn't have done wigan any favours being caught cheating the cap AGAIN would it.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:43 pm  

As a collective group of fans are we really that one eyed and biased to not be able to see this is a great thing for RL. Yeah, Wigan were the first to take this rule to their advantage, so what? The rule applies to each and every club who can take advantage of it if they wish.

Would you have been happier if the RFL did nothing and talents like Tomkins were lost to other competitions or codes, closely followed by our other top players? Yeah we'd certainly have parity then, everyone would be rubbish. Unfortunately this dream of having all 14 clubs equal in talent and ability isn't going to happen, that's life, not everybody is equal.

I think it is a fantastic move by the RFL which will help in preventing a talent drain from SL, I'm sure you all won't be moaning when the rule benefits us to help us keep Roby, Lomax or one of our other stars.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:08 pm  

There's a lot of hot air on this thread about a rule change nobody knows anything about but a few sentences from a press release. I don't agree with an increase for homegrown players as I do think it benefits the big clubs before the smaller ones at the moment, however that does at least give the smaller clubs something to aim for.

I'm a bit wary of this 'marquee' terminology though. Who determines a marquee player? That's a subjective decision that is open to too much interpretation.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:13 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

There's a lot of hot air on this thread about a rule change nobody knows anything about but a few sentences from a press release. I don't agree with an increase for homegrown players as I do think it benefits the big clubs before the smaller ones at the moment, however that does at least give the smaller clubs something to aim for.

I'm a bit wary of this 'marquee' terminology though. Who determines a marquee player? That's a subjective decision that is open to too much interpretation.

The thing is though, if the RFL sit back and did nothing it is effectively punishing the big clubs by having their top players cherry picked. We can't blindly just say everything must be equal if it is to the overall detriment of the competition and our product.

Other clubs such as Wakefield and Castleford could be classed as 'smaller clubs' but they have fantastic youth teams with a hotbed of talent to scout from, this rule should benefit them as both of these clubs are now spending near to the cap.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:46 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

The thing is though, if the RFL sit back and did nothing it is effectively punishing the big clubs by having their top players cherry picked. We can't blindly just say everything must be equal if it is to the overall detriment of the competition and our product.

Other clubs such as Wakefield and Castleford could be classed as 'smaller clubs' but they have fantastic youth teams with a hotbed of talent to scout from, this rule should benefit them as both of these clubs are now spending near to the cap.

Wakefield are spending to the cap?

Not one player that has gone over for the money would have ever received it in RL due to the cash restraints of the clubs, not the cap. Having an allowance for one or two players is a solution that is on iffy ground for me (that's without seeing the actual rule). The one thing I think should have happened was that the cap should have been raised in line with inflation every couple of years. £1.6m buys a lot less now than it did 10 years ago.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:48 pm  

to answer an earlier question.
Eastmond didnt deserve it, Tomkins imo does.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:49 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

Wakefield are spending to the cap?

Not one player that has gone over for the money would have ever received it in RL due to the cash restraints of the clubs, not the cap. Having an allowance for one or two players is a solution that is on iffy ground for me (that's without seeing the actual rule). The one thing I think should have happened was that the cap should have been raised in line with inflation every couple of years. £1.6m buys a lot less now than it did 10 years ago.

As I understand it, for next season under Andrew Glover, Wakefield have substantially increased there spending on personnel. It may not be to the extent of the cap but certainly a lot more than they was. Of course, I may be wrong though.

I agree with every point you have made to be quite honest but I do think this new ruling, if it is as we suspect, will help in fending off RU or the NRL in terms of the cap not restricting clubs from defending themselves.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:26 pm  

saintcj wrote:

to answer an earlier question.
Eastmond didnt deserve it, Tomkins imo does.

Why didn't eastmond deserve it ?