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Re: warriors board : Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:24 pm  
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Re: warriors board : Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:57 pm  
lionarmour87 wrote:
but that was not the first time you were fined because of salary cap indescresions though was it?


As for a few clubs around that time!
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Re: warriors board : Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:02 pm  
St pete wrote:
Did you or did you not break the salary cap?


technically no. Hence being charged with going against the spirit of the cap rather than breaching it !!
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Re: warriors board : Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:46 pm  
lothlorian wrote:
technically no.


So yes then. :lol:
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Re: warriors board : Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:55 pm  
mistermoo wrote:
So yes then. :lol:



so NO hence never been charged with breaching the cap :roll:
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Re: warriors board : Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:12 am  
lothlorian wrote:
technically no. Hence being charged with going against the spirit of the cap rather than breaching it !!


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Re: warriors board : Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:17 am  
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so NO hence never been charged with breaching the cap :roll:


Technically No = YES. :lol:
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Re: warriors board : Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:20 am  
It was a technical loophole (used in Australia) that Wigan used. The RFL then made up a new charge of "against the spirit of the cap". They then changed the cap rules so as not to allow deferred payments.

It's a bit like being fined for doing 39 mph in a 40 mph zone and the council then making it a 30 mph zone and fining you retrospectively. (a bit simplistic I know, but you get the argument)

What will be interesting is what will happen to ALL the clubs who have been misusing EBT and image right payments to players. Will that be "against the spirit of the cap" or will it be swept under the carpet.

What should happen is that ALL the clubs and ALL the players who have benefited from these payments should be named in the RL press, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: warriors board : Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:40 am  
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What will be interesting is what will happen to ALL the clubs who have been misusing EBT and image right payments to players. Will that be "against the spirit of the cap" or will it be swept under the carpet.



By all, you mean Wigan, Leeds and Warrington? And before you give us some claptrap about one of your "sources" down the pub or at an under 4's game telling you differently, no, Saints arent looking at a huge Inland Revenue retrospective tax bill like Wigan are, because we didnt abuse it like Wigan did.

Dont believe me? Wait and see.

As for the last part, I would imagine a line would be drawn under the whole matter and no fines/points deduction will be issued as its a totally different thing to what Wigan did. Wigan purposley circumvented the cap, the whole image rights thing was done within the constraints of the cap. £1.6million was still spent on wages during the year, just HMRC reveived less in tax and the players received more. Its a bit unfair to now penalise clubs who have an additional tax liability for prior years, when at the time of wages/tax, were still within the limit of the cap.

Wigan just went out and spent too much and then tried to make the RFL look like mugs. Totally different scenario to the whole image right thing.
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Re: warriors board : Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:03 am  
Rogues Gallery wrote:
It was a technical loophole (used in Australia) that Wigan used. The RFL then made up a new charge of "against the spirit of the cap". They then changed the cap rules so as not to allow deferred payments.

It's a bit like being fined for doing 39 mph in a 40 mph zone and the council then making it a 30 mph zone and fining you retrospectively. (a bit simplistic I know, but you get the argument)

What will be interesting is what will happen to ALL the clubs who have been misusing EBT and image right payments to players. Will that be "against the spirit of the cap" or will it be swept under the carpet.

What should happen is that ALL the clubs and ALL the players who have benefited from these payments should be named in the RL press, but I'm not holding my breath.

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