Re: Financing package wipes out Saints debt : Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:30 pm  

All very nice, we are a mega bucks club, with owners richer than abramovich and the man city rag heads put together. But the important wquestion that I cannot believe hasn't yet been asked is...... Can we now afford cladding????

Re: Financing package wipes out Saints debt : Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:33 pm  

SomersetSaint wrote:

Can we now afford cladding????

I dare you to tweet that question to @Saints1890! G'won! Dare ya!

Re: Financing package wipes out Saints debt : Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:38 pm  

I wonder if Rogues practices being bitter or if it comes natural being a Wiganer. It's great to be supporting a top club with great finances and a new wholly owned stadium we dont have to share with a football team. It's even better knowing plenty Wiganers living in Billinge helped us pay for it , even in just a small way.

I opened this thread and was just wondering how many posts in it would be before Rogues posted something that looked like a vague insult or negative insinuation about Saints.. I bet when he read the article he nearly choked on his mushed up evening meal.

Anyone ever seen the Liverpool video , '15 minutes that shook the world' ? Swap the Everton fans for Wigan fans and the Alex Ferguson parody for Rogues and you can imagine he's like that everytime Saints are on TV ... they even have a Rat Boy in that vid too

Re: Financing package wipes out Saints debt : Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:41 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I dare you to tweet that question to @Saints1890! G'won! Dare ya!

No I'm a coward at heart! You do it, you're a girl, can get away with it!

Re: Financing package wipes out Saints debt : Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:04 pm  

Best. Thread. Ever.

Re: Financing package wipes out Saints debt : Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:51 pm  

Having skimmed the thread it would seem that Saints have restructured some debt and traded some debt for ownership. I would like to assume that a good deal has been had, but given the banks are not going to be keen to provide a loan to a loss making business, the terms could be worse.

Hopefully it's better for Saints and so good for RL.

Anyway, back over the hill to read the pointless repeat thread about stadium ownership v rental, or should that be capex v opex spend?

Re: Financing package wipes out Saints debt : Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:06 am  

Agent Mulder wrote:

How did the Wigan Chairman tell the fans he had just paid back £2 million to DW (I think it was). How does that £2 million show up on Wigans finances.

The biggest problem for Wigan RL is next year if the Latics get relegated. DW will lose his premiership funding and could be possibly going to Ian Lenegan for increased running costs. As Wigan has very insignificant asset value, this could damage profit margins, a couple of bad seasons and reduced attendances Ian Lenegan will have to dig deep on a stadium he dosn,t own.

Re: Financing package wipes out Saints debt : Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:24 am  

Agent Mulder wrote:

How did the Wigan Chairman tell the fans he had just paid back £2 million to DW (I think it was). How does that £2 million show up on Wigans finances.

He explained it to us at the shareholders meeting. It was the final payment for his purchase of Wigan from DW. He also explained Wigans tax liability for the image rights payments that most clubs are likely to face and the fact that Wigan made a profit on the 2009 season, would make a profit in 2010 but expect to make a loss in 2011 due to quite big investments being made that would bring profit to the club in further years.

It was a very informative and interesting meeting.

Re: Financing package wipes out Saints debt : Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:37 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

He explained it to us at the shareholders meeting. It was the final payment for his purchase of Wigan from DW. He also explained Wigans tax liability for the image rights payments that most clubs are likely to face and the fact that Wigan made a profit on the 2009 season, would make a profit in 2010 but expect to make a loss in 2011 due to quite big investments being made that would bring profit to the club in further years.

It was a very informative and interesting meeting.

It will be a very informative next meeting if you ask what plans are in place to get the players to fulfill their contracts eg: Barrett, J Tompkins and Sammy Rodent, in Joel's case I'm not taking the "P", have a nice day

Re: Financing package wipes out Saints debt : Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:45 am  

Judder Man wrote:

The biggest problem for Wigan RL is next year if the Latics get relegated. DW will lose his premiership funding and could be possibly going to Ian Lenegan for increased running costs. As Wigan has very insignificant asset value, this could damage profit margins, a couple of bad seasons and reduced attendances Ian Lenegan will have to dig deep on a stadium he dosn,t own.

Wigan RL has a fixed agreement in place (it's either a 25 or 50 year, it wasn't brought up at this years shareholders meeting) whereby they pay 10% of their gate receipts for the use of the stadium, but things like pitch maintenance & renovation, floodlight costs etc, are covered in that 10% figure.
As a cost based model it is a superb agreement, but as a revenue based model we lose out on things like non matchday opportunities.

Hence Wigan RL diversification and investment into other areas, which will become apparent in the next year or so.