Re: Wembley Statue, who should it be? : Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:45 pm  

Cragganmore Kid wrote:

One of the best moments at Wembley in British RL was Davies' try v the Aussies in '94.

Wouldn't mind seeing that moment immortalised - I think we need to get over this 'Union' thing, he was a great RL player and is still an ambassador for the sport..

I don't think it's a question of 'getting over' anything. The statue is supposed to represent a League icon not one who has played a bit of League and then switched to Union. We need someone who is quintessentially League because then he will represent our sport of League. No issue about it really. I also think the statue should represent an English player, and not a foreign one, because Wembley is the home of English rugby league (and, as such, home of rugby league per se).

I'm liking Alex Murphy. A brilliantly gifted rogue who fans loved or loved to hate but who also fought hard for his country and still believes we should stand on our own two feet rather than simply try to copy the Aussies.

Re: Wembley Statue, who should it be? : Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:46 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Oh and another impressive part of Edwards cv.

The top try scoring half back of all time.

Another pointless stat in the context of the statue. I refer you back to my comments earlier comments of playing in a great team against mainly part time opponents.

Re: Wembley Statue, who should it be? : Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:53 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

Another pointless stat in the context of the statue. I refer you back to my comments earlier comments of playing in a great team against mainly part time opponents.

But you could also argue that the likes of Murphy, Boston , Fox etc played against teams the likes of Blackpool Borough, Huyton/Liverpol City, Doncaster, Batley etc.

Re: Wembley Statue, who should it be? : Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:00 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I don't think it's a question of 'getting over' anything. The statue is supposed to represent a League icon not one who has played a bit of League and then switched to Union. We need someone who is quintessentially League because then he will represent our sport of League. No issue about it really. I also think the statue should represent an English player, and not a foreign one, because Wembley is the home of English rugby league (and, as such, home of rugby league per se).

I'm liking Alex Murphy. A brilliantly gifted rogue who fans loved or loved to hate but who also fought hard for his country and still believes we should stand on our own two feet rather than simply try to copy the Aussies.

Davies hardly 'played a bit of league then switched to union' though. He's still involved in RL now.

That moment is a fantastic moment in British RL and worthy of recognition, IMO.

Re: Wembley Statue, who should it be? : Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:19 pm  

Cragganmore Kid wrote:

Davies hardly 'played a bit of league then switched to union' though. He's still involved in RL now.

That moment is a fantastic moment in British RL and worthy of recognition, IMO.

No he went Union, League, then back to Union and is more involved with Union now than League.

Re: Wembley Statue, who should it be? : Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:39 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

No he went Union, League, then back to Union and is more involved with Union now than League.

As I said, we need to get over it.

Would you agree it's an iconic monent in British RL?

Re: Wembley Statue, who should it be? : Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:53 pm  

Cragganmore Kid wrote:

As I said, we need to get over it.

Would you agree it's an iconic monent in British RL?

I think people's main gripe with Edwards is his current position in the other sport.

It is almost comparible to the rebel's building a statue for Darth Vader outside their Hoth base. Yeah it is true that Anakin used to be a prominent figure within the Jedi council and was appointed to protect Senator Amidala, but he gave up the warm feelings and respect of his peers and elders when he sided with the Empire.

Similarly, you may say that Edwards was a gifted and successful Rugby player and, is such, deserving of a statue despite his latter career path; however, as Qui Gon Jinn notes, Anakin has the highest midi chlorian count recorded and he still turned to the dark side and his potenital forgotten.

Ultimately, I refuse to stand by as we blindly build a statue to Darth Vader.

Re: Wembley Statue, who should it be? : Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:24 pm  

jdrocket wrote:

I think people's main gripe with Edwards is his current position in the other sport.

It is almost comparible to the rebel's building a statue for Darth Vader outside their Hoth base. Yeah it is true that Anakin used to be a prominent figure within the Jedi council and was appointed to protect Senator Amidala, but he gave up the warm feelings and respect of his peers and elders when he sided with the Empire.

Similarly, you may say that Edwards was a gifted and successful Rugby player and, is such, deserving of a statue despite his latter career path; however, as Qui Gon Jinn notes, Anakin has the highest midi chlorian count recorded and he still turned to the dark side and his potenital forgotten.

Ultimately, I refuse to stand by as we blindly build a statue to Darth Vader.

I was on about Jonathan Davies.

Geek

Re: Wembley Statue, who should it be? : Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:27 pm  

jdrocket wrote:

I think people's main gripe with Edwards is his current position in the other sport.

It is almost comparible to the rebel's building a statue for Darth Vader outside their Hoth base. Yeah it is true that Anakin used to be a prominent figure within the Jedi council and was appointed to protect Senator Amidala, but he gave up the warm feelings and respect of his peers and elders when he sided with the Empire.

Similarly, you may say that Edwards was a gifted and successful Rugby player and, is such, deserving of a statue despite his latter career path; however, as Qui Gon Jinn notes, Anakin has the highest midi chlorian count recorded and he still turned to the dark side and his potenital forgotten.

Ultimately, I refuse to stand by as we blindly build a statue to Darth Vader.

Maurice Lindsay would make a good emperor though

Re: Wembley Statue, who should it be? : Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:55 pm  

Correct me if I'm wrong, KC never won an individual award in any of the finals he played in, does that make him an average player in a great team? Individual awards mean naff all in the great scheme of things, ask Robbie Paul after the 1996 final if he'd swap his Lance Todd for a winners medal. I suspect he would.

To suggest that Edwards shouldn't be one of the front runners in this is compete nonsense in my view.

If I was compiling a list of nominees I would say Edwards, Offiah, Murphy and Hanley.