Re: Atmosphere for Next Year : Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:39 pm  

Odemwingie wrote:

Aye advantage saints in that area.

It's just about capturing hearts and minds now. It's easy enough to say that terracing is a better thing, but if people don't wanna do it, it won't happen.

Re: Atmosphere for Next Year : Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:50 pm  

Ski wrote:

It's just about capturing hearts and minds now. It's easy enough to say that terracing is a better thing, but if people don't wanna do it, it won't happen.

I'm gonna see if I can aquire some more interest at the match on friday

The thing with terracing is, it allows the pre match drinkers (usually singers too) to get in at 7.58pm and still be able to join us.

Re: Atmosphere for Next Year : Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:02 pm  

Ski wrote:

It's just about capturing hearts and minds now. It's easy enough to say that terracing is a better thing, but if people don't wanna do it, it won't happen.

The thing is it is a lot easier to get all the singers together. We know they will naturally gather at the back of the terrace near the middle.

We had the same on the popular side at central park but now singers are spread all over the stadium like at Widnes now with you guys.

Re: Atmosphere for Next Year : Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:58 pm  

Ski wrote:

It's just about capturing hearts and minds now. It's easy enough to say that terracing is a better thing, but if people don't wanna do it, it won't happen.

I reckon the East Stand at Widnes has shown itself willing. One difficulty is that those who start the singing off seem to be grouped in two places at the back. If the fans who started off the singing were all grouped together that would make the kick start louder and people would be able to hear when to join in.

While chanting can be good, I think some fans will feel alienated if that's all we do. We need to sing as well (something Wigan fans don't really do).

Re: Atmosphere for Next Year : Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:12 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I reckon the East Stand at Widnes has shown itself willing. One difficulty is that those who start the singing off seem to be grouped in two places at the back. If the fans who started off the singing were all grouped together that would make the kick start louder and people would be able to hear when to join in.

While chanting can be good, I think some fans will feel alienated if that's all we do. We need to sing as well (something Wigan fans don't really do).

Chants/Songs. It's all the same thing as long as it is noise. As long as it backs the boys.

For those who think it doesn't matter, Leon tweeted how moved he was by the reception he received on his return.

Re: Atmosphere for Next Year : Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:26 pm  

Atmosphere a the new stadium will depend on how well the team is doing on the pitch.

If we are winning and up there in the league then it will he buzzing but if we have a bad run if form then it could be like a grave yard.

Re: Atmosphere for Next Year : Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:34 pm  

Tony Stark wrote:

In fairness we've had the flags for years too, they just aren't as prominent at the Stobart as they were at the old girl. I honestly think the atmosphere will return once the bulk of the more vocal fans (and hopefully some new ones) return to one area at the new ground as opposed to being more sporadically situated in the seating at Stobart.

This is from the Stobart.

Re: Atmosphere for Next Year : Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:54 pm  

Ski wrote:

No, no they don't. Having been to game with Sankt Pauli Ultras, and CSKA Sofia and Botev Ultra groups, they don't go out to create violence. An intimidating atmosphere, yes, but not violent.

A few mindless knobheads who attach themselves for a ruckus is not the same as groups designed like 80s firms.

Who wants an intimidating atmospere?
I want an enjoyable, competitve, sporting atmosphere.
What the goons are doing is very different to the normal singing and cheering on of teams, and I and the people who sit near where I sit don't enjoy it and hope we don't do anything similar.

Re: Atmosphere for Next Year : Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:04 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

Who wants an intimidating atmospere?
I want an enjoyable, competitve, sporting atmosphere.
What the goons are doing is very different to the normal singing and cheering on of teams, and I and the people who sit near where I sit don't enjoy it and hope we don't do anything similar.

Probably worded that badly, an atmosphere that intimidates oppostion players.

Re: Atmosphere for Next Year : Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:19 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

What the goons are doing is very different to the normal singing and cheering on of teams, and I and the people who sit near where I sit don't enjoy it and hope we don't do anything similar.

This is why I'm hoping that the group(s) who start off the singing include singing as well as chanting. There will be room for both IMO but so long as it's both. Too many fans will be alienated if only the ultras style chanting is started off.