Re: our pack : Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:00 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

True. Either way, I don't think he's up to it. I'm not one to jump to that kind of conclusion about young players but I think he's been around long enough now to be showing us what he's made of. I don't think Ashurst, Dixon or Magennis are up to it although Magennis is probably the best of the three, his tendency to drop the ball at important times aside.

I think it's time to start trying out some new youngsters in the position to see if they don't have more to offer.

Joe Greenwood was superb for Saints in their U20 game v Wigan at Orrell in April. He looked a very good prospect.

Re: our pack : Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:05 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Joe Greenwood was superb for Saints in their U20 game v Wigan at Orrell in April. He looked a very good prospect.

He's been given a first team shirt in recent weeks, as has Jordan Hand and Warren Thompson. Only Warren Thompson got a debut during our injury crisis period though. However, we shouldn't need to wait for injuries to give debuts.

Re: our pack : Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:17 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

Why? He's far more experienced than, say, Chris Tuson who played for Wigan. I'd assume Ashurst has made double Tuson's SL appearances.

A run by Tuson and a run by Ashurst summed up the night.
Tuson, who I've never thought of anything more than a good club youngster, came on and took the ball up with real bite, making decent yards and landing on his front.
Shortly after it was Ashurst's turn and he jogged, slowly, onto the ball and got dumped right next to the previous PTB.

Magennis does seem to have some capability for good offloads and good lines, but he gets dominated a lot in contact.
I've always been very positve about the 3 of the young back rows, but seeing the difference in strength when flanders (who's no star) is taking the ball up shows they're way behind where you want.

That said, I remember thinking Paul Clough was too small when I first saw him. So even I'm wrong sometimes.

Re: our pack : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:07 am  

Wire will definitely look to dominate in the same way the goons did, exploiting the act that we have zero impact from the bench. I think the only player that has offered any form of impact this season is Scott Moore - brain explosions aside.

Dixon/Ashurst/Magennis - at the moment average with potential

TP quiet since new contract signed

Graham - still our best forward in terms of effort and contribution

LMS - Not as much impact as we would have hoped for - but appears enthusiastic

Perry - lacking match fitness but we could do with seeing some form sooner rather than later

On the plus side we can have had excellent seasons so far from Roby & Wilkin

Soliola improving & Flannery has had a promising return from injury.

I still personally wouldn't swap any of the above for Sean (swinging arms ninny) O'loughlin thank you very much

Re: our pack : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:23 am  

Iansaintgeorge wrote:

I still personally wouldn't swap any of the above for Sean (swinging arms ninny) O'loughlin thank you very much

Go on then, I'll bite. You were doing OK until the above

Re: our pack : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:29 am  

Dave Q wrote:

Go on then, I'll bite. You were doing OK until the above

Well it can't be all serious, you have to drop in a crowd pleaser...