Re: Who should play where : Sun May 29, 2011 10:01 pm  

St pete wrote:

I'm not knocking Gaskell and I like what I've seen of him, I liked him the first time I saw him because he takes the line on well for such a young kid but IMO Pryce has the class and experience and should play providing he's up to it after his injuries.

My new pet hate is the people writing we don't need to replace Gardner for next year because weve got makinson and he's fast

Makinson has played about 3 games, we don't know what he's like under the high ball, kicks to ground of if he can tackle but because he showed some pace in two games we've got him nailed on as future winger!

That's the way it's done these days. When he turns into Kevin Penny it's the club's fault for signing him in the first place.

Re: Who should play where : Sun May 29, 2011 10:01 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Agreed, but since Gaskell has just signed a three year deal with Saints, those who are better placed to know clearly see some potential in him. Until that potential has been given a decent amount of time to develop - at least the same amount of time that Lomax has had, for instance, would be a start - I think people making negative judgments about whether that same player is going to be as good as one who has been around for over ten years is not only unfair but ridiculous.

I'm not making negative comments at all, read my posts. I said he's a good player and will make a career of it. I also said I think he may be on the same level as Danny Orr, a compliment in my book.

I could have said people picking Gaskell in a fully fit starting team over Pryce this year is ridiculous, but I didn't because I'm not as confrontational as you are.

You can see who has potential to be good and who has potential to be great from a very early stage no matter what you say. Look how Sam Tomkins burst on the scene, he has massive potential to be great if he cuts a few facets out of his game. I'm not comparing Gaskell to Tomkins, but I haven't seen anything in Gaskell to suggest he will be 'great'.

Everybody is welcome to their opinion.

Re: Who should play where : Sun May 29, 2011 10:17 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

That's the way it's done these days. When he turns into Kevin Penny it's the club's fault for signing him in the first place.

I know it is but for Christ sake, makinson has played about four games and because he's looked fast, we've got him down as our winger for the next ten years! He's not even a winger!

Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 7:53 am  

BackrowSaint wrote:

Everybody is welcome to their opinion.

Indeed they are and I didn't say they weren't. However, everyone is welcome to challenge opinions too! I simply disagreed with the attitude that decides a player of 20 years old with a handful of games under his belt is never going to be as good as a player with over ten years' experience, including at international level. It's a ridiculous attitude to take.

Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 7:55 am  

St pete wrote:

I know it is but for Christ sake, makinson has played about four games and because he's looked fast, we've got him down as our winger for the next ten years! He's not even a winger!

Who has decided on Makinson as Saints' winger for the next ten years? I don't see that written anywhere. Oh, you're being melodramatic again. Surprise!

Personally, I'd like to see Makinson have a go at the wing spot because he has real pace, which is something Saints fans moan about the team not having on the wings. Probably you moaned about that too at some point. Whether he can defend well or catch a high bomb I don't know as I can't remember from the 1.5 times I saw him play or whatever it was. But it would be good to see how he goes. However, Simmons may have other ideas. So be it.

Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 8:09 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Who has decided on Makinson as Saints' winger for the next ten years? I don't see that written anywhere. Oh, you're being melodramatic again. Surprise!

Personally, I'd like to see Makinson have a go at the wing spot because he has real pace, which is something Saints fans moan about the team not having on the wings. Probably you moaned about that too at some point. Whether he can defend well or catch a high bomb I don't know as I can't remember from the 1.5 times I saw him play or whatever it was. But it would be good to see how he goes. However, Simmons may have other ideas. So be it.

He should be given a chance on the wing because he has pace.

Classic

Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 8:10 am  

Leon and Lomax should be our halves when he's fit again.

Pryce is an out and out match winner and you need those in your side to win trophies.

Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 8:16 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Who has decided on Makinson as Saints' winger for the next ten years? I don't see that written anywhere. Oh, you're being melodramatic again. Surprise!

Personally, I'd like to see Makinson have a go at the wing spot because he has real pace, which is something Saints fans moan about the team not having on the wings. Probably you moaned about that too at some point. Whether he can defend well or catch a high bomb I don't know as I can't remember from the 1.5 times I saw him play or whatever it was. But it would be good to see how he goes. However, Simmons may have other ideas. So be it.

I have moaned in the past about a lack of pace in the backs but we can't just say play him wing because he's fast. He might be worse than meli dealing with kicks, he might not have the positional mind to know when to drop back and when not to as he's not a natural winger.

The pace problem in the backs isn't as bad as it once was, Shenton, lomax and eastmond are very quick and the likes of ade, foster, Pryce, wheeler and Gaskell ain't exactly slow either.

I would like to see a attacking fast centre brought in to give us balance in the centre and also have a threat out wide.

Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 8:29 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

Leon and Lomax should be our halves when he's fit again.

Pryce is an out and out match winner and you need those in your side to win trophies.

That's exactly how I see it and have been saying the same thing.

Pryce and lomax are the two best halfbacks at the club and should play.

Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 9:09 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

Leon and Lomax should be our halves when he's fit again.

Pryce is an out and out match winner and you need those in your side to win trophies.

Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. But are you confident we will see him again this season? I'm not. Hope I'm wrong though.