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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:13 am  
The shot on wheeler would barely get a mention if he hadn't been injured as a result of it. There are far worse late hits every week in SL that go unpunished.
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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.

[/quote]

Another classic:

[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.

Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.

Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666

0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".

Therefore ZERO.[/quote]

Give the girl her dummy back.

Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:31 am  
Cronus wrote:
:lol: When Hampo runs past Foster? That's just Hampo being cheeky...get over it.

Like it or not every team pulls tactics looking for an advantage now & then...Foster's "injury" around 75 mins, for example - nothing more than killing time. Q: How is that any worse than a player looking for a penalty? A: It's not.


No It was Hampo trying to cheat,another one off the tip sheet eh.
Unfortunately Hoffmans late shoulder charge won em the game,they got away with It.
Nowt we can do about It now,Maguires tactics wins another one so theyre happy we aint.
In saying that I think It will strengthen our resolve and we live to fight another day.
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:37 am  
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No It was Hampo trying to cheat,another one off the tip sheet eh.
Unfortunately Hoffmans late shoulder charge won em the game,they got away with It.
Nowt we can do about It now,Maguires tactics wins another one so theyre happy we aint.
In saying that I think It will strengthen our resolve and we live to fight another day.


Change your avatar, Sam looked a little happier yesterday.... hehehehehe
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:44 am  
I think had the ref given a penalty for the late challenge on the kicker, then people would have said well it was just an unlucky consequence as it was, the touchy and ref ignored it and so not only did we lose a guy but there was no recognition of it or even a stoppage in play when the play came back down the other end.

It was a huge turning point in the game on so many levels, sub wise, injury wise, half back wise, it's one of those that's hard to let go as it just had such an impact.

But Wigan will be very lucky to get Saints in such a beat up team the next time we meet. So we'll see how it goes then.

Having said that though, the last 12 months we have really struggled to get our half backs on the field against wigan. It's almost like the wigan fans have their voodoo dolls out to keep our backs injured for these games.
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:39 am  
as i said in another thread, i didnt think it was particularly late or high. Just part of the game.
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:40 am  
Saint Simon wrote:
as i said in another thread, i didnt think it was particularly late or high. Just part of the game.


She be coming for you, be warned!
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:42 am  
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She be coming for you, be warned!

People are going to think you're obsessed, Pete!
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:46 am  
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People are going to think you're obsessed, Pete!


I am obsessed with you :HEARTKISS:

You sound hot :wink:
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:09 pm  
We can debate whether the Hoffman challenge was late until the season ends but one indisputable fact is that Hooper copped a four match ban for exactly the same hit. I don't expect the disciplinary to remain consistent so it's probably best to forget about it (although the players now know what they can get away with doing to the opposition kicker in future and I hope they'll deliver exactly the same).

The loss of Wheeler certainly didn't do us any favours as his kicking was forcing Wigan back time and time again. That said, we can't really blame the lads as their defence was only breached in the first half by a mile forward pass.

I thought Wigan were pretty mediocre, TBH. For the first thirty minutes they were extremely lethargic and only managed to make serious yardage on the back of individual rugby (two breaks by Tomkins). In the second half they found it easier without Puletua and Graham and the absence of Wheeler's kicking. Instead of making fifty yards per set we were down to thirty and Wigan were suddenly starting their possession close to the half way mark. It was noticeable that once those props returned to the field it didn't take long for usual service to be resumed.

Inexperience and injuries cost us the game. Nothing more. Lomax and Shenton will learn from their mistakes and be better players. Throw into the mix Perry, Pryce, Flannery, Gaskell, Clough, Wheeler etc. and we'll be okay. It'll also be handy having a born competitor in the backs like Hohaia next season who will make sure minds stay focussed on the task in hand.
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:19 pm  
Mugwump wrote:
We can debate whether the Hoffman challenge was late until the season ends but one indisputable fact is that Hooper copped a four match ban for exactly the same hit. I don't expect the disciplinary to remain consistent so it's probably best to forget about it (although the players now know what they can get away with doing to the opposition kicker in future and I hope they'll deliver exactly the same).

The loss of Wheeler certainly didn't do us any favours as his kicking was forcing Wigan back time and time again. That said, we can't really blame the lads as their defence was only breached in the first half by a mile forward pass.

I thought Wigan were pretty mediocre, TBH. For the first thirty minutes they were extremely lethargic and only managed to make serious yardage on the back of individual rugby (two breaks by Tomkins). In the second half they found it easier without Puletua and Graham and the absence of Wheeler's kicking. Instead of making fifty yards per set we were down to thirty and Wigan were suddenly starting their possession close to the half way mark. It was noticeable that once those props returned to the field it didn't take long for usual service to be resumed.

Inexperience and injuries cost us the game. Nothing more. Lomax and Shenton will learn from their mistakes and be better players. Throw into the mix Perry, Pryce, Flannery, Gaskell, Clough, Wheeler etc. and we'll be okay. It'll also be handy having a born competitor in the backs like Hohaia next season who will make sure minds stay focussed on the task in hand.


Unless he suffers the same fate of the half backs injury curse against Wigan.

:)

But yep, we did pretty well all being said
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