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Re: Soliola : Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:43 am  
If another Superleague team were to offer Saints around £250K for James Graham, do you think that they would take it?
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Re: Soliola : Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:56 am  
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If another Superleague team were to offer Saints around £250K for James Graham, do you think that they would take it?
Who knows? We're in a period of such change with the staudium that we could be anywhere between having massive confidence in our future finacial security because of our new facility, or being down to bare bones and struggling to survive on the income from our reduced following at Widnes.
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Re: Soliola : Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:59 am  
Rogues Gallery wrote:
If another Superleague team were to offer Saints around £250K for James Graham, do you think that they would take it?



why would they? he is out of contract at the end of this year, so can walk away wherever he wants for free.
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Re: Soliola : Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:00 am  
Rogues Gallery wrote:
If another Superleague team were to offer Saints around £250K for James Graham, do you think that they would take it?


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Re: Soliola : Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:10 am  
Rogues Gallery wrote:
If another Superleague team were to offer Saints around £250K for James Graham, do you think that they would take it?

no one would so its a pointless question
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Re: Soliola : Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:53 am  
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Its not like pre 2007, though, you can't just use a big sets of props and a running hooker to steamroller the opposition, so in a salary capped game, you have to be careful not to put all your eggs in one basket.


Which is why it's in our interest to be producing good young props because they supplement the high salaried experienced front row forwards without costing the earth. Yes, to sign five good-to-excellent props would no doubt imbalance the wage structure. But it's perfectly possible to afford three top class props if you can group them with one hot prospect and one solid youngster, both of whom won't have achieved enough to warrant big salaries. And if you favour four experienced pros and don't mind fielding modestly talented players in the less important positions (such as wing) then one big prospect will suffice. I favour the latter for what I feel are good reasons, but it depends on your philosophy.

Unfortunately, because of our poor record at producing good young props we, for years, have been forced to spend more than we should on imports (domestic and non) and this has had a knock-on effect in positions more important than wing (i.e. centre).

Aside from the primary playmaker prop is the single most important position and we should make every effort to ensure that it - above ALL others - is the main focus at academy level.

I'd suggest our props are one of our strongest assests and, ignoring TP's age, if Graham went but Clough continues to transform like he is, we may not miss him as much as we think.

Where esle would we strengthen if we had his wages spare? I'd suggest we'd just see who was available and then decide what benifit to our squad they'd be.


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Re: Soliola : Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:20 am  
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Which is why it's in our interest to be producing good young props because they supplement the high salaried experienced front row forwards without costing the earth.
The same can obviously be said about all positions, but I understand the reasons you priorotise props.

I'd suggest the reason we don't see many come through is the same reason we don't see many flying wingers either - they are physical extremes. You can't teach pace, nor can you teach being as big as a big red cow.

That said, its worth noting that 2 of our countries big name props started in the back row.

Backrows and centres are different, they can learn to play the game in different ways to suit their physical abilities.
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[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.

Thick as pig swill.[/quote]

Re: Soliola : Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:52 am  
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He came through our academy though, so I suppose we can.


He played in Warringtons U18s and U21s, before spending a year playing RU, and then went out to Leigh on dual reg. He didn't come through our Academy at all, bar waiting for his chance in our reserve team.
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Re: Soliola : Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:55 am  
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He played in Warringtons U18s and U21s, before spending a year playing RU, and then went out to Leigh on dual reg. He didn't come through our Academy at all, bar waiting for his chance in our reserve team.

She'll blame Mick Potter for all that
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Re: Soliola : Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:57 am  
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She'll blame Mick Potter for all that

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