Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:54 pm  

clearly is current fans favourite!!.. thought he was possibly our best player last night, seem to run at the defence all night, and tackled everything that moved.. he may not have been saints best player in many people's opinions, but my god, he was no way near our worst player..

wilkin up his own booty? what does he do differently to any other player in the squad? i would guess he gets as much media coverage as the next saints player

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:09 pm  

Wilkin was poor for you last night, had a great laugh watching him get caught by Andy Coley too.

Thought Tony P was your best player, some of his passes and offloads were magical.

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:11 pm  

V For Vendetta wrote:

Wilkin was poor for you last night, had a great laugh watching him get caught by Andy Coley too.

Thought Tony P was your best player, some of his passes and offloads were magical.

I couldn't believe coley caught wilkin

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:13 pm  

What a pathetic thread. How anyone can suggest that Wilkin's approach was 'casual' yesterday is beyond me. He worked his backside off. He didn't have a great stand off's game, but then he isn't a stand off (I don't know why Potter didn't play Lomax at 6, but there you go). And he set up our solitary try.

Collectively we were awful. Singling out Wilkin is unjust.

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:19 pm  

Dux wrote:

What a pathetic thread. How anyone can suggest that Wilkin's approach was 'casual' yesterday is beyond me. He worked his backside off. He didn't have a great stand off's game, but then he isn't a stand off (I don't know why Potter didn't play Lomax at 6, but there you go). And he set up our solitary try.

Collectively we were awful. Singling out Wilkin is unjust.

It's not just last nights game, it's been for the last 3/4 years, he's just not the player he thinks he is or what we thought he'd be.

I agree he does graft.

Dux, what would you say was wilkins strengths as a saints rugby league player and what he brings to the team ?

Not looking for a heated debate but would like to know as i do think you write alot of sense on here.

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:29 pm  

Dux wrote:

What a pathetic thread. How anyone can suggest that Wilkin's approach was 'casual' yesterday is beyond me. He worked his backside off. He didn't have a great stand off's game, but then he isn't a stand off (I don't know why Potter didn't play Lomax at 6, but there you go). And he set up our solitary try.

Collectively we were awful. Singling out Wilkin is unjust.

Because Wilkin is the new Meli/Gardner/Potter/insert scapegoat here.

Hes nowhere near as bad as the knownowts make out and is certainly deserving of a second row place

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:29 pm  

St pete wrote:

It's not just last nights game, it's been for the last 3/4 years, he's just not the player he thinks he is or what we thought he'd be.

I agree he does graft.

Dux, what would you say was wilkins strengths as a saints rugby league player and what he brings to the team ?

Not looking for a heated debate but would like to know as i do think you write alot of sense on here.

I'm not claiming he's a world beater, but for me he's one of the most committed players at the club. He is an excellent defender, his work rate is tremendous and he's got a good all round skill set, without being outstanding in any particular department.

It just winds me up when people bag him for being lazy (perhaps because of his running style?) or up his own backside (presumably because he's a good looking lad and doesn't mind voicing his own opinion). Have a look at his appearance on Super League's Super Men - he's completely realistic about his own abilities.

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:36 pm  

I like Wilkin, he works hard for the team and if used in his correct position he does a very good job for us. But, he's either good or awful there's no inbetween with Wilkin. Last night (and in alot of the big games recently) he's been terrible, which annoys me.

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:39 pm  

I have to say Jon Wilkin hasnt ever recaptured the form he showed in 2006 were he was outstanding. I do feel however he is being switched between Stand Off, Second Row and Loose Forward to cover injuries. In 2011 if he plays in the Second Row or Loose Forward on a week in week out basis you will see Wilkin's confidence and form will be like it was in 2006. Playing the game myself I am allways comfortable playing in my Loose Forward role every week I know my job. On occasions when I have to play at Stand Off it is as everybody knows a completley different role and maybe Wilkin suffers from the fact he can play a number of positions rather than just one.

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:42 pm  

Dux wrote:

I'm not claiming he's a world beater, but for me he's one of the most committed players at the club. He is an excellent defender, his work rate is tremendous and he's got a good all round skill set, without being outstanding in any particular department.

It just winds me up when people bag him for being lazy (perhaps because of his running style?) or up his own backside (presumably because he's a good looking lad and doesn't mind voicing his own opinion). Have a look at his appearance on Super League's Super Men - he's completely realistic about his own abilities.

I don't he's as committed as you think, he used to be but not anymore.

His game as gone backwards over the last few years and is very very average and don't justify the high salary i expect saints pay him.

He lacks size and is slow for backrow of his size.

Im pretty sure we could bring in a much better player for the wage i expect him to be paid.