Re: Nice see Tommy back in squad : Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:04 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

I don't think this is true at all. I mean, sure - it would be great to capture one or two new signings. Maybe we will. I don't know.

But right now I'd just settle for a season in which we aren't blitzed by lengthy (or worse - season long) injuries to key personnel.

It's no co-incidence that Huddersfield's form has peaked - precisely at a period when they've had a settled side.

Aside from the first five games we've not had a settled side all year.

Excuse after excuse. Every team has injuries throughout the season. We're not a special case. Hull brought a team last week that were missing seven players.

The rugby is BORING Muggers. Unimaginative, one up rubbish.

Re: Nice see Tommy back in squad : Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:05 pm  

theblondebomber wrote:

We where shocking again. No organisation or direction when he have the ball. Someone mentioned that we can 5/6 sets on their line and we only scored from a cheeky drive/scoot. I still think we look shot and tired before we even kick off. Could training be an issue? Also I noticed a little bit of in fighting during stoped play, mainly between Swift and Jones. Either way we need to get a few basics sorted and build. It's starting to feel like Royce is back.

I think the effort is there. It's been there all season. What's missing is leadership, direction and tactical awareness.

Re: Nice see Tommy back in squad : Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:25 pm  

Twentyman wrote:

Excuse after excuse. Every team has injuries throughout the season.

Injuries are random events. So - no. Injuries are not spread equally across all teams throughout the season.

But even if they were - losing your first choice scrum half for twelve months is a hell of a lot more problematic than losing your first choice winger.

We're not a special case. Hull brought a team last week that were missing seven players.

So? Over the years I've seen sides full of reserves win games. This doesn't mean any of them will start six weeks later when the first teamers return.

The clue is in the word - "competition".

The rugby is BORING Muggers. Unimaginative, one up rubbish.

What, I'm the coach all of a sudden?

Re: Nice see Tommy back in squad : Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:36 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Injuries are random events. So - no. Injuries are not spread equally across all teams throughout the season.

But even if they were - losing your first choice scrum half for twelve months is a hell of a lot more problematic than losing your first choice winger.

So? Over the years I've seen sides full of reserves win games. This doesn't mean any of them will start six weeks later when the first teamers return.

The clue is in the word - "competition".

What, I'm the coach all of a sudden?

.....you probably wouldn't do any worse

Re: Nice see Tommy back in squad : Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:39 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Injuries are random events. So - no. Injuries are not spread equally across all teams throughout the season.

But even if they were - losing your first choice scrum half for twelve months is a hell of a lot more problematic than losing your first choice winger.

So? Over the years I've seen sides full of reserves win games. This doesn't mean any of them will start six weeks later when the first teamers return.

The clue is in the word - "competition".

What, I'm the coach all of a sudden?

I'm sure fans of every single club believe their team has been hit hard by injuries. Obviously we focus more on our own team.

I'm getting bored of injuries being used as an excuse now.

Re: Nice see Tommy back in squad : Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:34 am  

Do people want the midget Quinlan kept on next year ?

Re: Nice see Tommy back in squad : Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:58 am  

same old excuses from same people.

We've got a full complimant of props, we have not got one single prop missing. We have all three centres fit plus our back up in dawson. We even dropped one centre in Jordan Turner. We have had both halves back for past 5 weeks. We now have tommy back so both first choice wingers playing. Only Vea missing from Backrow but superstar greenwood and the Lms in there so pretty well covered.

We have a virtual full line up and settled team.

No excuses! The players, the coaching staff are the ones to blame, not injuries or any other excuse these posters can invent.

Re: Nice see Tommy back in squad : Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:13 am  

There's a number of issues at the minute for me.

Walsh has not come back the same player he was prior to the injury, he's out of form and isn't directing the side around.

Burns is not the player that was described when we signed him (others will probably say 'I told you so'), but whilst he appears indestructible, he's next to useless in directing the team around (and to think some on here wanted him to be captain at the beginning of the season because he shouted at Vea in a scrum). He's been a poor signing so far.

Wilkin is injured, it's not a coincidence that we've fallen to bits during the period he's been missing. He's the only other player, bar Walsh, that can effectively direct the team around the park.

Confidence looks shot, especially in defence. Players are second guessing themselves, hesitating, trying too hard, etc. all over the park and it's leading to easy tries being conceded.

The first three things Cunningham can do little about, I'm one of those that doesn't like kids being chucked into weakened sides unless it's necessary, but the last one, the confidence is his (and the coaching staff) job to change. It's not working at the moment, and changes need to be made, but I don't think that's necessarily him being sacked. He needs to learn from this experience.

Re: Nice see Tommy back in squad : Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:27 am  

The Eclipse wrote:

Do people want the midget Quinlan kept on next year ?

Next Year!!, I wouldn't want him in the next game. Swifty was playing full back,wing and prop forward last night whilst Quinlan was tackling an "invisible man" and not interested in a decent kick return. We don't have a decent offloading game now, so Quinlan is very much negated and a passenger who can catch a high ball with nothing to offer after that.

Re: Nice see Tommy back in squad : Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:08 am  

Twentyman wrote:

I'm sure fans of every single club believe their team has been hit hard by injuries. Obviously we focus more on our own team.

I'm getting bored of injuries being used as an excuse now.

I couldn't care less whether you think it's an excuse or not. Right now the truth is that we have one functioning halfback. And he's injured.

How we have arrived at this position is an entirely different question. But it doesn't make it any less true.

And if teams could play successfully without halfbacks for any length of time - there'd be no need for halfbacks.