Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:17 pm  

Right ... Positives first ...

Savelios best game for us period
Makinson pulled off more than a few try savers
Minus the kickoff I thought Fleming had a good debut - he should remain at least until Wellens is fit,
Walsh looked great

Negatives
Jones, Wilkin Flanagans and Mose's first half performance were nothing short of atrocious, LMS's and burns not far behind
Our game plan is basically dependent on having 2 100kg+ players running wide to create gaps and doubt in defences - until Walsh we looked like creating nothing
We seem to be playing 2 locks and one second row which makes our outside backs look poor in defence as they're constantly left with overlaps
Our defense was at 6s and 7s from minute 1
Despite everything, they're were 2 - 3 opportunities to get back into the game and really put ourselves back into the game and we blew every single one
We must be the most intercepted team I the league - we are literally handing our opponents 6-12 points a game

I'm not really sure where we go from here ...

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:18 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

I disagree. I thought Wilkin was awful all night. He got killed down the middle and on the edge.
Complete lack of any pace. Looked like he was on 40 fans a day.

Very harsh on his second half performance. He was our most threatening runner once he went into the back row. He was bloody awful defensively in the first half though.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:18 pm  

sir adrian morley wrote:

ha ha..and your last 2 trys at hull kr werent forward...

Whats that got to do with anything you plank?

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:20 pm  

Dux wrote:

Very harsh on his second half performance. He was our most threatening runner once he went into the back row. He was bloody awful defensively in the first half though.

Yeah , thats my take on it too. He is a backrow and he should be playing there now Walsh is back

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:21 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

Whats that got to do with anything you plank?

well you started it cretin

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:24 pm  

sgtwilko wrote:

Walsh pass for Turner was about 2 meters forward.

According to John Wells Sinfield's pass to Singleton was so far forward it went into the future.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:25 pm  

Dux wrote:

According to John Wells Sinfield's pass to Singleton was so far forward it went into the future.

Technically speaking you could say that about every pass!

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:26 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Technically speaking you could say that about every pass!

Not if you take into account the momentum rule ...

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:27 pm  

Dux wrote:

According to John Wells Sinfield's pass to Singleton was so far forward it went into the future.

That's not what he ment at all. But you lot have always been the same. Again Walsh for Turner about 2 meters forward. Saints get their fair share of the rub of the green.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:29 pm  

Roy Haggerty wrote:

Positives


Negatives


I thought what tonight showed was that we're a Saints team who have forgotten how to play attacking, passing rugby. Our injuries to key backs have meant that for 12 months now we've had to rely on grinding up the field, and getting over the line from within the opposition twenty after repeat sets. We simply didn't know what to do today with attacking chances. There were no drop-off runners for the props' offloads, so they ended up throwing it to the grounds ten yards back rather than in the hands, and if it did go to hand, everyone stood around staring because they weren't expecting a second phase. Likewise it was painful to watch Walsh creating gaps and uncertainty in the Leeds line, but us having nobody running the correct lines to hit the holes he was making, because we just haven't done that for so long.


Oh, and we really, really need Percy back, plus one other proper athletic, fast winger or fullback. Our lack of speed in the backs is cringeworthy.

Absolutely spot on.

We used to play with flair like that.
It was like being beaten by Saints of yesteryear.

We over hype ,over pay and over indulge in sentimentality.

Leeds in contrast attract and develop flair physicality and most importantly pace.

They have a balanced squad.
If you took our best(only) two wingers out like they had even with all our other players back,
the contrast is stark.