Re: Shamefully bad : Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:46 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Another quite ridiculous performance from a team devoid of a soul. There is no backbone in this side, as soon as anything goes against them they turn to jelly. Wellens as captain is a joke, an utter joke. When the decisions were going against us after we scored, he should have been in his face complaining and demanding better. There were some utterly ridiculous decisions given tonight and he never opened his mouth.

Our pack is the best in the league if you believe Walsh, Brown, McManus and a lot of idiots on here. They're a joke. Individually they look decent players at times, but whenever it matters they get completely demolished. Tonight was unnacceptably bad, Wire lost Grix and Westwood and Waterhouse and Asotasi are appalling. They didn't even have a bench yet they still smashed up to pieces.

McManus has got to be ruthless, he's got to wake up from his slumber and have a complete clear out. We cannot give Wellens another deal, he's a complete joke, a total liability defensively and a terrible player with the ball. Turner is another who has to go. Yet they're holding back on giving Manu a contract? Release McDonnell, Dawson, Wellens, Hohaia and Masoe and we would save a packet and wouldn't notice the difference.

Wow.....!!!! So that's why you're top of the table then...............would hate to think where you would be if you were playing at your full potential then....!!!!

Re: Shamefully bad : Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:14 am  

What happens now Do you settle for second by resting your wounded, or go all out for the plate next week? I know I’ve said that if you can get it (the LLS that is) then go for it, but now, it’s a lot harder to choose the right way to go for saints.

Re: Shamefully bad : Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:53 am  

St. Rughead wrote:

The worst I've seen us play as far back as I can remember. Standout moment, Monaghan's try when Turner trotted out of the line and let Monaghan walk past him. I can't see much joy for us next week or in the playoffs.

You haven't got a very good memory; give you a clue, it was the Magic Weekend in May against... Warrington. Funny that.

Re: Shamefully bad : Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:54 am  

I've no problem with calling the team performance poor. BUT.

There are a few on here who are plainly agenda driven. I've no time for that.

The lambasting of a team at the top of the league, who have won more games this year than the rest. Who have won games after Walsh got injured when most said that's it and we will win no more games.

Sack the coach even. It's utter drivel from people who for no good reason dislike certain players or Brown.

Why did Wheeler not play?? Well he had all those weeks to impress when Lance was out and impressed no one.
How I long for the days when a coach would get us to 4th or 5th in the table, get this coach who has got us to the top and our first chance of silver in 6 years out.

It's utter nonsense and for some reason that I can not fathom dogmatic from some on here. Never liked from day one and praying for games like this to push their agenda.

Makinson was tosh last night, do I use that to say sack him. No because the rest of his season has to be taken into account.

Re: Shamefully bad : Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:00 pm  

mark_m wrote:

You haven't got a very good memory; give you a clue, it was the Magic Weekend in May against... Warrington. Funny that.

Last night was worse for me. At least in the Magic game we came back a bit in the 2nd half.

Last night we were just horrendous throughout and somehow managed to get worse in the 2nd half. We made so many amateurish errors, we just didn't give ourselves any chance at all against a Warrington team who were pretty good on the night.

Re: Shamefully bad : Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:04 pm  

Dux wrote:

There's not a lot he can do about that when there isn't a fit half-back in the squad. The worrying thing about this debacle is that it has had nothing to do with us not having any playmakers. It's been about us getting thoroughly beaten up in the middle, which has happened pretty much every time we've played on the big stage this season.

Why couldn't you play that inept last week?

Re: Shamefully bad : Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:09 pm  

I can't help but think people are going overboard about last night.

We were missing a lot of pivots (and lost another to a broken jaw early on) and played like strangers, with a bit of a roasting from the ref thrown in.

Yes it was hugely disappointing, yes it wasn't an acceptable performance level. But there's a game next week which, if we win, we're lifting silverware.

I think I'll see how they react next week and in the play-offs before crucifying the team and club - in my opinion we have performed admirably for most of the recent past given the circumstances.

Re: Shamefully bad : Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:14 pm  

django wrote:

Why couldn't you play that inept last week?

Because you only had 12 players for most of the game? (and still nearly beat us!)

Re: Shamefully bad : Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:16 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

I can't help but think people are going overboard about last night.

I think making excuses is what's led us to where we are now.

Yes, we've a good chance of finishing top. But does anyone really think we've a chance of lifting the trophy that matters at Old Trafford?

Re: Shamefully bad : Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:20 pm  

Th'ump wrote:

I think making excuses is what's led us to where we are now.

Top of the league with a game to play?

Th'ump wrote:

Yes, we've a good chance of finishing top. But does anyone really think we've a chance of lifting the trophy that matters at Old Trafford?

Well, no because we're missing our star signing at 7 for the season, who was replaced by Wilkin who is out for the season, we could play Lomax there but he's out for the season, but thankfully we brought in a reserve fullback to cover for him who is out for the season.

Here's a thought - would Leeds win it without Sinfield and Hardaker, plus reserves like say Burrow and McGuire out? I think I know the answer.

Let's retain perspective - there is absolutely no question whatsoever that the squad improved on last year through the addition of Walsh, Amor and Masoe (when fit), this is fairly evident from our league position despite the season long injury issues.

People make it sound like we are on an irreversible slide - we have an improved squad compared to last year which has been decimated. Chances are the squad will improve again next year with some signings.

Those who make out that there is some head in the clouds mentality at Saints that ignores the shortcomings of the squad at the moment are not being fair (or honest) about the sterps being taken to rectify matters; steps that so far have us sat top of the league.