Re: anyone due back then? : Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:53 am  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

We are not starting this again! He's been good the last 2 games, that is the majority view on here, and let's move forward.

Given the hull Kr fans complaint of ghostmont is he doesn't run his weight this could be another recipe for disaster...

Yes let's agree to disagree on Mose and pretend 8 carries in a game is good for a prop.

Re: anyone due back then? : Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:06 pm  

http://www.sthelensreporter.co.uk/sport ... -1-6666563 Jones/Percival back into the squad and wheeler to 6? Also, according to saints twitter, ghostmont is close to returning to training with the squad ... So I'd guess he's still a while away from playing!

http://www.sthelensreporter.co.uk/sport ... -1-6666563 Jones/Percival back into the squad and wheeler to 6? Also, according to saints twitter, ghostmont is close to returning to training with the squad ... So I'd guess he's still a while away from playing!

Re: anyone due back then? : Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:28 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

http://www.sthelensreporter.co.uk/sport/saints/will-hohaia-join-squad-1-6666563

Jones/Percival back into the squad and wheeler to 6?

Also, according to saints twitter, ghostmont is close to returning to training with the squad ... So I'd guess he's still a while away from playing!

I'm a bit concerned at no mention of Swift. I'm not on twitter, anyone fancy asking them what's happening with him?

Re: anyone due back then? : Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:53 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

I'm a bit concerned at no mention of Swift. I'm not on twitter, anyone fancy asking them what's happening with him?

Someone already asked them about Percival jones swift and Wilkin only one they spoke specifically about was Wilkin who "will be out for a period of time" (precise) - the only thing they added is "others may also return"

Re: anyone due back then? : Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:08 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Someone already asked them about Percival jones swift and Wilkin only one they spoke specifically about was Wilkin who "will be out for a period of time" (precise) - the only thing they added is "others may also return"

Cheers mate, just read that now. I sometimes go on for a nosey but just don't have an account myself.

Re: anyone due back then? : Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:42 pm  

Anyone due back this week apart from Walmsley from his ban?

Re: anyone due back then? : Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:48 pm  

Rommel wrote:

Anyone due back this week apart from Walmsley from his ban?

Swift hopefully. He was named in the team on Saturday so I'm assuming he can't be far off.

Re: anyone due back then? : Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:08 pm  

St pete wrote:

Yes let's agree to disagree on Mose and pretend 8 carries in a game is good for a prop.

I mentioned in earlier threads that he is not used the right way so yesterday I looked at it in a bit more depth. There was a chance he could have done 20 carries there where 8 instances where the best option was to pass to him but Roby and Walsh changed the direction of play. There was also 4 occasions when Mose didn,t put himself into the attacking line and let others do the work.
His defence is OK, attackers don,t risk running straight at him, quite often Mose tackles from the side. He did a bit more support play than of late but this kind of stuff doesn,t appear in any stats.

If you investigate how he was used with Penrith and Samoa I would imagine he is less effective at Saints, so what is it coaching tactics, conditioning, laziness etc.

Re: anyone due back then? : Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:54 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

I mentioned in earlier threads that he is not used the right way so yesterday I looked at it in a bit more depth. There was a chance he could have done 20 carries there where 8 instances where the best option was to pass to him but Roby and Walsh changed the direction of play. There was also 4 occasions when Mose didn,t put himself into the attacking line and let others do the work.
His defence is OK, attackers don,t risk running straight at him, quite often Mose tackles from the side. He did a bit more support play than of late but this kind of stuff doesn,t appear in any stats.

If you investigate how he was used with Penrith and Samoa I would imagine he is less effective at Saints, so what is it coaching tactics, conditioning, laziness etc.

I thought he had a good 10 min spell in the 2nd half but he's to easy to tackle IMO and also the opinion of Tez O'conner and Barrie Mac. He doesn't run his size at all.

Put that size on Thompson and we've got a world class prop on our hands because Thompson runs with a purpose. He runs with aggression.

I'm not bagging Mose for his lack of carries tbh. If he only did 6 carries per game but knocked people on their backside and did 20 mins of pure damage when he come on, I'd be over the moon but he's soft as s*it.

Re: anyone due back then? : Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:04 pm  

St pete wrote:

I thought he had a good 10 min spell in the 2nd half but he's to easy to tackle IMO and also the opinion of Tez O'conner and Barrie Mac. He doesn't run his size at all.

Put that size on Thompson and we've got a world class prop on our hands because Thompson runs with a purpose. He runs with aggression.

I'm not bagging Mose for his lack of carries tbh. If he only did 6 carries per game but knocked people on their backside and did 20 mins of pure damage when he come on, I'd be over the moon but he's soft as s*it.

Let's be honest, if mose did run his weight he would still be in the NRL