Re: wello bitten?. : Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:33 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

If he hadn't of slipped though he wouldnt have been hit in the head. Still (and i dont agree with it but) shoulder charges are now banned

Re Wello. He shouldn't have given MM the forearm to the face, but MM shouldn't have bit him either.

We're not playing wendyball, if you give someone a forearm you can't whinge if he retaliates

You certainly can complain if you are bitten.

If contact Is made to the head, it doesn't matter how it happened but it's foul play. If let's say Sia is going to put a big shot on but the player side steps and Sia takes his head off because he stepped, does that make it ok ?

Re: wello bitten?. : Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:35 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

If he hadn't of slipped though he wouldnt have been hit in the head. Still (and i dont agree with it but) shoulder charges are now banned

Re Wello. He shouldn't have given MM the forearm to the face, but MM shouldn't have bit him either.

We're not playing wendyball, if you give someone a forearm you can't whinge if he retaliates

IF McIlorum has definitely and deliberately bitten Wellens then he deserves a long ban.

Re: wello bitten?. : Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:37 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

IF McIlorum has definitely and deliberately bitten Wellens then he deserves a long ban.

Agreed but IMO it's not conclusive.


Do you think he did it ?

Re: wello bitten?. : Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:42 am  

St pete wrote:

Agreed but IMO it's not conclusive.


Do you think he did it ?

Too right I believe, after all its Easter........

Plus anyone who can live in wigan and not eat when food is put in front of them,
meat in a wrap must be very tempting.

Re: wello bitten?. : Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:46 am  

St pete wrote:

Agreed but IMO it's not conclusive.


Do you think he did it ?

I honestly don't know, I've watched again a couple of times and from those camera shots you can't tell. Wellens certainly goes at McIlorum with the forearm but whether there was a bite I'm not sure. I would think the RFL will and should look at it. Maybe there are different camera angles which will show what happened conclusively, let's wait and see.

Re: wello bitten?. : Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:10 am  

St pete wrote:

If contact Is made to the head, it doesn't matter how it happened but it's foul play. If let's say Sia is going to put a big shot on but the player side steps and Sia takes his head off because he stepped, does that make it ok ?

Typically example was last season with Meli on the Hull K R winger, Meli clothes lined him after being side stepped, not sure how many matches he got.
Its the responsibility of the defender to make sure there is no contact with the head, it doesn't matter if the attacker ducks down, slips, jumps, side steps etc its all down to first point of contact. As Shirley was put on report I think they will look at the intention and opportunity to avoid the head area, Bowen set the standard early on in the season towards what Wigoon can get away with..............in this instance, no intent warning about tackling technique.

Re: wello bitten?. : Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:13 am  

dubairl wrote:

seriously you think those incidents are even comparable? i missed the point where slater ran in to graham with his ear, Still don't think graham bitt slater by the way.

Wouldn't surprise me if Micky did bite him but he made no clear movement to bite him, considering wellens had just forearmed in the face.

I think you missed my cryptic jest. Don't think anything will come of it to be honest. Seem to remember 5 mins before the incident MM trapped Wello's arm as he was trying to play the ball and it boiled up from there, hence the arm in the face.

Re: wello bitten?. : Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:11 pm  

St pete wrote:

You certainly can complain if you are bitten.

If contact Is made to the head, it doesn't matter how it happened but it's foul play. If let's say Sia is going to put a big shot on but the player side steps and Sia takes his head off because he stepped, does that make it ok ?

Totally agree with your point " if contact is made to the head it doesn't matter how it happened it's foul play".

Be interesting to see how many matches Wellens gets for leading maliciously with the elbow/forearm into an opponents face .... a cheap shot that could easily have broken MM's jaw.

Re: wello bitten?. : Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:15 pm  

I8pies wrote:

Totally agree with your point " if contact is made to the head it doesn't matter how it happened it's foul play".

Be interesting to see how many matches Wellens gets for leading maliciously with the elbow/forearm into an opponents face .... a cheap shot that could easily have broken MM's jaw.

Such a shame it wasn't leading with the forearm then for your argument isn't it really. In fact wellens forearm was facing his own posts - hardly "leading maliciously"

Re: wello bitten?. : Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:16 pm  

I8pies wrote:

Totally agree with your point " if contact is made to the head it doesn't matter how it happened it's foul play".

Be interesting to see how many matches Wellens gets for leading maliciously with the elbow/forearm into an opponents face .... a cheap shot that could easily have broken MM's jaw.

That's fair enough as long as SOL and MM get their bans then it's fair.

I'd say leaning with the forearm will have slightly less ban than taking someone's head off and someone actually having a bite on a arm.


Wello - £300 fine

MM - 8 match ban

SOL - 3 match ban.