Re: Ferres spear tackle : Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:58 am  

When do we hear the decision?

Re: Ferres spear tackle : Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:17 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

When do we hear the decision?

Usually after 5 p.m tonight.

Re: Ferres spear tackle : Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:54 am  

4-5 matches, I reckon.
They state "tackle went wrong" rather than malice to avoid the full 8 matches.

Re: Ferres spear tackle : Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:08 am  

I think it will be 4-5 matches at least, mostly because of the timing and the injury to Alex McKinnon.

I think this injury highlighted there can be zero tolerance of dangerous tackles like this. Some guys might end up getting lengthy bans, for the occasional accident or poor technique, not to mention something more malicious, but you cannot risk somebody getting a life changing injury.

Re: Ferres spear tackle : Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:36 am  

What may go against him is that he has previous for a similar offence for Huddersfield after already having a caution whilst at Castleford. http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/discipl ... rch=search

What may go against him is that he has previous for a similar offence for Huddersfield after already having a caution whilst at Castleford. http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/discipl ... rch=search

Re: Ferres spear tackle : Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:35 pm  

Top Saint wrote:

Why should that make a difference. He drove him down onto the top of his head. Jonny was lucky, Alex Mckinnon wasn't so lucky. Same tackle, Same ban for me.

Watch the tackle again, I am not defending it but he didn`t go down on his head. Just looking at the tackle Lomax seems to jump up into it as though he could be looking for a penalty, which he got but with a slightly different outcome. ????

Re: Ferres spear tackle : Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:45 pm  

Giantscorpio wrote:

Watch the tackle again, I am not defending it but he didn`t go down on his head. Just looking at the tackle Lomax seems to jump up into it as though he could be looking for a penalty, which he got but with a slightly different outcome. ????

Lomax is trying to get down for a quick play the ball as the line is disjointed (and he should of given the pass) - to try and stop this Ferres holds him around the waist bear hug style to try and hold him up.

He then for some unbeknownst reason continues the lift (to suggest lomax jump is silly, owing to the fact he's trying to get down to play the ball) - I would suggest Ferres overestimated the force needed to continue holding the player up in the manner he was (which to be fair is an unusual tackling position) - then, more perplexingly continues to drive through the tackle which puts lomax in a vertical position.

Even at this point Ferres has opportunity to release the tackle and give away the penalty, but he continues the tackle until lomax hits the floor (I would definitely say first contact was on the head but I haven't seen it in 24 hours - lomax does the correct thing of not tucking his head in though)

Re: Ferres spear tackle : Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:30 pm  

the tackle was right in front of us and believe me Lomax`s head hit the ground at the same time as his shoulder and then Ferres landed on his head with his body, all this talk about Lomax jumping is ridiculous and Ferres followed through when he could have stopped and lowered Lomax at any time, but didnt and looking at the previous he has with the disciplinary over the same tackling technique the lad obviously hasnt learned anything and if he carries on he WILL seriously injure someone

Re: Ferres spear tackle : Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:32 pm  

Well ... Ferres is named in the Huddersfield 19 man squad ...

Re: Ferres spear tackle : Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:32 pm  

What I don't get is if you are in that position, why drive down??

Hold the player accept you have given a penalty, but hold him until help arrives to put him down safely. I could understand if it was a weight issue, but when vertical he can stop the momentum and just hold.

That way he gives a penalty, gets a warning, but there is no pile drive, no red card and no inquest. People see a genuine attempt to rectify the problem tackle and everyone walks away happy.