Re: St Helens v Hull: game thread : Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:09 am  

LFC Saint wrote:

I think Josh Jones as been hugely disappointing this season and im a massive fan of his. No impact at all with ball in hand and especially against Salford when the pass was on he kept hold of the ball instead. I tipped him for International honours this year but he looks miles off.

I think the opposite. His tackling has been great. With ball in hand he has taken it up well particularity taking up second phase offloads.

Missed Friday but he was great against Wire and good/solid against Salford IMO.

Re: St Helens v Hull: game thread : Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:20 am  

LFC Saint wrote:

I think Josh Jones as been hugely disappointing this season and im a massive fan of his. No impact at all with ball in hand and especially against Salford when the pass was on he kept hold of the ball instead. I tipped him for International honours this year but he looks miles off.

I think his problem is he's gone from playing centre/ wide second row to loose and playing very centrally, he's often being hit by the props when he takes the ball in, which isn't playing to his strengths. He's young, and definitely more talented than most second rowers we've produced.

He had a good game against wire when he was put in the second row, but he's been a bit dominated since he was put in the middle.

Re: St Helens v Hull: game thread : Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:25 am  

You need players to balance the side.

Soliola, Manu, Masoe, Walmsley an even LMS are impact type players. I look at Amor, Jones and Wlkin as the workhorses in our team who are steady with the ball but tackle with intensity.

There is work to be done with Jones, but I can see what he offers to us.

Re: St Helens v Hull: game thread : Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:29 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

You need players to balance the side.

Soliola, Manu, Masoe, Walmsley an even LMS are impact type players. I look at Amor, Jones and Wlkin as the workhorses in our team who are steady with the ball but tackle with intensity.

There is work to be done with Jones, but I can see what he offers to us.

We,ve got to replace Wilkin in 2 or 3 years hopefully Jonesy can develop his game, didnt he start life as a half back if so maybe there is some basic instinct in there.

Re: St Helens v Hull: game thread : Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:46 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

You need players to balance the side.

Soliola, Manu, Masoe, Walmsley an even LMS are impact type players. I look at Amor, Jones and Wlkin as the workhorses in our team who are steady with the ball but tackle with intensity.

There is work to be done with Jones, but I can see what he offers to us.

I don't think Sia is a impact player. I don't think we getting the best out of him from the bench. You want sia on the pitch from the start. He can play long mins.

IMO Sia is one of our best players and should be on from star.

Re: St Helens v Hull: game thread : Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:58 pm  

St pete wrote:

I don't think Sia is a impact player. I don't think we getting the best out of him from the bench. You want sia on the pitch from the start. He can play long mins.

IMO Sia is one of our best players and should be on from star.

I meant the way he plays, his style is very impact based.

Re: St Helens v Hull: game thread : Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:35 pm  

We do have quite a few props, who are impact props, so the second rowers are going to have to make up the tackling.

Can't see Mose, LMS contributing a huge tackle count. Walmsley has upped his tackle count this year which is good.

Re: St Helens v Hull: game thread : Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:42 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

We do have quite a few props, who are impact props, so the second rowers are going to have to make up the tackling.

Can't see Mose, LMS contributing a huge tackle count. Walmsley has upped his tackle count this year which is good.

This is where Laffranchi comes into his own, he is a good tackler