Re: New 2-year deal for Ade? : Tue May 21, 2013 7:42 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Ade was one of the poor performers tonight. Makinson, on the othe hand, looked very assured back on the wing. (apart from his opening mistake)

He was playing on the left wing too, which I don't remember him doing previously although he may have. He was jonny on the spot on a few occasions so his stint at fullback may have rounded his game somewhat although he always, always plays up in the big games, and last night was definitely a big game!

So far as Gardner is concerned, nothing he did last night changed my mind about him. Although we know he will be getting a new contract - he'll probably still be playing on the wing when he's 40 - we could do better, I'm sure. And we are going to have the situation where our centre is faster than his winger, which can't be a good thing. Whereas the first try scored by Makinson shows just what can be done with pace and skill on the edges, and what a wonderful try that was to witness.

Re: New 2-year deal for Ade? : Tue May 21, 2013 9:56 am  

Does the fact that Gardner's getting a new deal say we're not getting Broughton?

Re: New 2-year deal for Ade? : Tue May 21, 2013 9:57 am  

St. Rughead wrote:

Does the fact that Gardner's getting a new deal say we're not getting Broughton?

Why would we want a quick winger when we can re-sign a duffer who runs the ball in hard off his own try line but very rarely gets near the opposition line?

Re: New 2-year deal for Ade? : Tue May 21, 2013 9:10 pm  

Carlos Alberto wrote:

Why would we want a quick winger when we can re-sign a duffer who runs the ball in hard off his own try line but very rarely gets near the opposition line?

Because he tries really really hard and he's been with us years. Thats all it takes to get a new deal at Saints, ability, speed and age are not factors we seem to bother with hence I also expect us to sign up good old Wello for another year or 5

Re: New 2-year deal for Ade? : Wed May 22, 2013 8:44 am  

Carlos Alberto wrote:

Why would we want a quick winger when we can re-sign a duffer who runs the ball in hard off his own try line but very rarely gets near the opposition line?

Maybe, just maybe, Broughton turned us down? But lets not let the real world get in the way of your constant downer on everything the club do...

Re: New 2-year deal for Ade? : Wed May 22, 2013 9:01 am  

Carlos Alberto wrote:

Why would we want a quick winger when we can re-sign a duffer who runs the ball in hard off his own try line but very rarely gets near the opposition line?

Gardner (and Meli) are both better than Broughton.

Re: New 2-year deal for Ade? : Wed May 22, 2013 9:06 am  

Carlos Alberto wrote:

Why would we want a quick winger when we can re-sign a duffer who runs the ball in hard off his own try line but very rarely gets near the opposition line?

I'm not sure you can blame a winger for us not getting near the opposition line.

How often have we seen Ade put through a gap or given a run with a bit of space to go at lately? If he was outside Manu and Percy I think we'd have seen far more attacking from him.

He didn't look good under that spiral bomb on Monday but then neither do lots of highly rated players including Billy Slater a lot of the time (although he does one or two other things quite well), and why should the right winger be having to cover a kick that's coming down near the posts anyway? If anything that suggests he's reading the game quite well and trying to cover for teammates who are out of position.

I'm not suggesting he's a great winger (or comparing him to Slater) by the way, just think he gets some unfair stick on here.

Re: New 2-year deal for Ade? : Wed May 22, 2013 9:44 am  

There are certain individuals on here who will have a go at certain players regardless. Even when they play well credit is not given. The trick is to treat those comments accordingly and ignore them.

Re: New 2-year deal for Ade? : Wed May 22, 2013 10:20 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Gardner (and Meli) are both better than Broughton.

There are a lot of people on here who simply cannot appreciate that Meli is a quality winger.

I'm willing to bet that whoever we bring in to replace him will be an inferior player.

Re: New 2-year deal for Ade? : Wed May 22, 2013 10:51 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Gardner (and Meli) are both better than Broughton.

It's not often I agree with you, but I can't get excited about Broughton, don't think he would improve the team.
However I would put definately Makinson in front of Gardner.

I don't think wingers are our main problem.