Re: Nothing better than a nice dose of reality : Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:18 pm  

St pete wrote:

Did you notice are forwards was getting in at 1st receiver at times and ball handling ?

Yes, Perry played at no 6 on 2 occasions yesterday. I also noticed Wellens is no longer the slowest player in the back line that nomination goes to Meli.
We will get back to playing with the right energy levels and effort, but my biggest concern is still our half back situation. Yes they were behind a beaten pack but they don,t have the right mind set to boss the team around the park.
We were saying the same thing last year, we don,t have an inspirational leader to give the team belief ( Joynt, Cunningham, Sculthorpe, Graham etc)
Also I would go to say that Roby is not as good a player as 5 years ago, he is more hard working and important to the team but he is no longer a consistent game changer.

Re: Nothing better than a nice dose of reality : Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:24 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Yeah, he is so inspirational. His knock ons, dropped ball, absence from defence and ineptitude in attack just inspired us to the nth degree yesterday.

Giving his all, if indeed that's what he does these days, is not enough - or should not be enough - to keep a player in the side.

He was poor last night, but it's very difficult for a full back to do anything when the opposition are breaking through at will, and have 3 or 4 men supporting the ball carrier when a break is made. We had no field position whatsoever ever last night, and attacking opportunities were extremely limited. The same applied to Lomax and Gaskell, we had no platform last night to create anything, so to place the blame at the hands of the back line is not fair IMO.

If you are looking to point the finger at someone, the forwards are the ones you need to be looking at, not the full back.

Re: Nothing better than a nice dose of reality : Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:27 pm  

Tez the Saint wrote:

And you say others have little knowledge of Rugby League.

Last night had absolutely nothing to do with the Half-Backs, they were playing behind a beaten pack from the first minute until the last, and ended up kicking from the own 20-30 meter line for the majority of the game. It had nothing to do with their ability to control the game, the fact of the matter is they were on the back foot all the time, and as a Half-Back, to control the side on the back off that is practically impossible.

The blame lies with the forwards, and they deserve all the stick that's coming to them.

As a Warrington supporter can I say this is totally right. Your pack was dominated by what is a very good Huddersfield pack. The one thing I can blame your HBs for though was the clueless 'options' on the last tackle.

Re: Nothing better than a nice dose of reality : Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:30 pm  

Ivor C&G Scarf wrote:

SaintsFan wrote:

Brough is 'class' when he wants to be. When he doesn't want to be, he can be awful. He was useless for most of last season, if memory serves.

What a load of tosh.

Being a Saints fan you naturally watched him week in week out?

So nobody can have an opinion on an opposition player, ever?

Re: Nothing better than a nice dose of reality : Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:32 pm  

mark_m wrote:

Tez the Saint wrote:

And you say others have little knowledge of Rugby League.

Last night had absolutely nothing to do with the Half-Backs, they were playing behind a beaten pack from the first minute until the last, and ended up kicking from the own 20-30 meter line for the majority of the game. It had nothing to do with their ability to control the game, the fact of the matter is they were on the back foot all the time, and as a Half-Back, to control the side on the back off that is practically impossible.

The blame lies with the forwards, and they deserve all the stick that's coming to them.

As a Warrington supporter can I say this is totally right. Your pack was dominated by what is a very good Huddersfield pack. The one thing I can blame your HBs for though was the clueless 'options' on the last tackle.

You say no blame on the HBs, but they didn't help things. Beaten pack or otherwise they made the wrong ball options in the few times we had the ball in an attacking position.

Re: Nothing better than a nice dose of reality : Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:36 pm  

Tez the Saint wrote:

He was poor last night, but it's very difficult for a full back to do anything when the opposition are breaking through at will, and have 3 or 4 men supporting the ball carrier when a break is made. We had no field position whatsoever ever last night, and attacking opportunities were extremely limited. The same applied to Lomax and Gaskell, we had no platform last night to create anything, so to place the blame at the hands of the back line is not fair IMO.

If you are looking to point the finger at someone, the forwards are the ones you need to be looking at, not the full back.

For me the whole team were a total mess yesterday. I blame the lot of them. But I lay least blame in the hands of the halfbacks because of the messed up situation last season which is bound to impact this season. As for Wello, he had similar problems last year too it is just that they were exaggerated yesterday.

Re: Nothing better than a nice dose of reality : Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:40 pm  

Who was our MOM by the way.

Re: Nothing better than a nice dose of reality : Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:43 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Who was our MOM by the way.

Robes.

Re: Nothing better than a nice dose of reality : Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:21 pm  

wakey_saint wrote:

Don't know how anybody can try to single Meli out last night either.

You clearly don't come on here much then Meli is the designated scapegoat and is at fault for everything that ever goes wrong - didn't you get the memo?

Re: Nothing better than a nice dose of reality : Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:24 pm  

Noel Cleal wrote:

Very true the same donkeys were guilty again except for Flannery who has his best game in living memory not one tackle missed and had his usual game in attack!!!

I thought Flannery had his quitest game in a Saints shirt in a very, very long time actually - you could hardly even tell he was on the field .