Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:31 pm  

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

The fundamental issue with Wigan's pack is, their hooker isn't much cop.

Watch out, that's sacrilidge to some Wigan supporting posters. We're often told of his obvious superiority to Roby which is clearly demostrated by him being on the winning side against saints.
He is clearly world class in every department.

He's no micky higham, though.

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:04 pm  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

:LOL:

You know, I bet if you squinted really, really hard and looked through a really expensive, really powerful telescope, I bet you could maybe see the Earth from that little fantasy planet you're living on there..

"players join Warrington just to win trophies and turn down bigger money offers to go elsewhere"....



Oh **** me.... My poor aching sides.... Gentlemen, we have a new all time low of comedy self-delusion...

and you're suggesting that players come to Warrington for the culture and the beautiful women... come off it.

Facts is facts is facts. A player's career is short and in the past few years Saints have won a bagful of dog poop and Warrington have won a few trophies; Don't be ashamed, you're time in the sun was bound to pass. The simple fact is that Hill and Ratch etc like to be on the winning team, while Perry and Lance will settle for money.

Just take a minute to write down that players Saints have bought over the last three years (and maybe include the slug and other, in the words of many Saints fans, 'past it players' that have resigned) and how much you think they are being paid to come to a losing club.

Leeds aren't guilty of cheating, Saints were only a little bit guilty of cheating and Bradford never cheated.

Money problems (cheating and not having enough) come for weaker teams. The old adage of success breeds success is ultimately true. Now let it go... you may just end up having to break the salary cap some more to stop yourself dipping too low.

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:53 pm  

jdrocket wrote:

Facts is facts is facts. A player's career is short and in the past few years Saints have won a bagful of dog poop and Warrington have won a few trophies;....like to be on the winning team...

Super League Grand Final win/loss record:

Saints: 4/5
Warrington: 0/0

Challenge Cup Final win/loss record in the SL era:

Saints: 7/1
Warrington: 2/0

You've been in 2 finals. We've been in 17. You've won 2... 2 playoff games ever!!!!!! Not 2 last season. 2 ever!!!!! EVER!!!!! We've won... loads.... (Can't be arsed working it out).

Any analysis of who is the loser club of the 2 is hardly difficult or inconclusive, is it?

I know you support a basketcase embarassing pitiful little ****ant nonentity of a club that we've frankly become bored of crushing contemptuously beneath our wheels at Saints for decades now and need a little bit of self-delusion to get over your enormous inferiority complex etc. but at least keep it vaguely within the bounds of credibility...

I know you're worthy of nought but derision, pity and ignorance but sod it I'll fight the troll on this one just for a laugh, eh?

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:04 pm  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

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Wow, man, you need to de-stress. I have heard of some massage parlors but I have never frequented them myslef, I recommend you give them a go. Tell me, between me and you, are you so vexed off cause Wire gave you a good old thrashing two weeks ago or is it that you can't even beat Wakefield now?

Ancient history means love all to a player who has only got a 10, maybe 15 year career. Wire has won 3 trophies in 3 years. Saints have 3 trophies in, what, 5 or six years? WArrington are in the challenge cup final this year. Saints are struggling to beat any of their nearest rivals and teams such as Bradford and Wakefeild... and you want to dispute who is the healthier and appealing club?

If we are going off ancient history then why aren't Cas and Widnes signing Benji and Billy from the NRL??? or even Tomkins and Hill??? cause you can win more at Wire and Wigan.

The sun has set on Saints (very brief) period of dominance. Going to old trafford and losing loses it's charm after the 5th time. You must remember what it is like to be in a challenge cup final, right? Imagine playing in one. No chance of anyone in a red V doing that this year, or even next.

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:53 pm  

Isn't there a certain irony about Saints' fans accusing Wire of breaking the salary cap by use of inducements, when its well known that Saints have 'attracted' young players to their academy by taking them on trips to Australia??....

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:01 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Isn't there a certain irony about Saints' fans accusing Wire of breaking the salary cap by use of inducements, when its well known that Saints have 'attracted' young players to their academy by taking them on trips to Australia??....

If I remember correctly: the players themselves have to pay something towards that trip...

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:06 pm  

Albion wrote:

If I remember correctly: the players themselves have to pay something towards that trip...

Still an inducement though......The size of that inducement doesn't matter, its just handy we have a board member who can provide more enticing bait than many of the other clubs in the league.

You are all being a little hypocritical to suggest we are in the wrong, when its been going on for years and is still going on (not just by Wire).

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:27 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

You are all being a little hypocritical to suggest we are in the wrong, when its been going on for years and is still going on (not just by Wire).

What is 'it' exactly? What is it Wire are meant to be doing?

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:46 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

What is 'it' exactly? What is it Wire are meant to be doing?

Apparently, according to some, offering inducements to players in order to join the club.....I'm open minded on the subject and willing to see evidence of this happening, but at the moment the only definite inducements we seem to have established, is Saints giving cheap holidays to Australia for their Academy squad as inducement to join them rather than other clubs.

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:34 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Apparently, according to some, offering inducements to players in order to join the club.....I'm open minded on the subject and willing to see evidence of this happening, but at the moment the only definite inducements we seem to have established, is Saints giving cheap holidays to Australia for their Academy squad as inducement to join them rather than other clubs.

It's hardly a 'holiday'!

Lets kick out Catalans then as we can't 'induce' the players with a 'cheap holiday' to France!