Re: Is this season a write off? : Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:13 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

You really are a sad, obsessed person aren't you?

I gave Potter a full season. Only during his second season with us did I end up thinking he was rubbish. And I haven't changed my mind since.

But can't you see that if you change Potter in the above sentence this is exactly how the rest of us feel about Royce.

Re: Is this season a write off? : Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:17 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

:lol: He can't walk on the pitch and tell them to get back on the plan!

Really ? and theres me thinking he could,i know he cant do that,but he can relaye messages during the game,he can give them a rollocking at half time,but nothing was changing.You can say we leaked less points against Bradford,fact is it was a bad day to play rugby and was allways going to be a low scoring game.

Ive seen you post some bilge on this site,from Tomkins not being knocked out and faking injury to todays outbursts and many others along the way.People posted last year that he was out of his depth and more suited to an assistant coach role and the mucking around so far this year really hasnt helped.

Re: Is this season a write off? : Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:39 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

There was an effect. We leaked fewer than half the number of points in the last two weeks than we had in the previous two weeks. So our defence had dramatically improved and but for Jamie Foster's lapses it would have been even better. Incidentally, the original plan was to drop Foster for four matches but injury to Gardner meant that Foster had to be played.

Defence righted itself first last season too. The attack would have come.

I have to agree with you. I think many people were suffering from premature speculation as far as Royce was concerned but I don't think there was a groundswell of opinion he should go so soon with the club not having much of a plan b.

Whilst we weren't looking world beaters, the only game we were really awful was against Hull and I thought we were unlucky against:

HKR (Foster missing 3 kicks)
Cats (we should have killed the game and took a sin binning and Foster had a mare)
Hudds (Brough goal rebounding off both uprights and the crossbar before it bounces over) and
Bradford (Foster brain fart- again, and TP knock on)

We are where we are but I'd personally adjusted to a season at mid-table.

Re: Is this season a write off? : Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:04 pm  

St pete wrote:

To be fair, you'd jumped on the Royce is great train just from one interview. I recall you saying you like him already from his very first interview.

I think SaintsFan replies are based on contradiction and supposition these days. I,m sure some of the truths will filter eventually on how we have ended up with such an unsaintlike team of individuals. Optimistically a temporary one.

Re: Is this season a write off? : Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:19 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Yes. Even if a new coach is found, it is fair to suggest this season is a write off. New coaches bring in new systems and teams have to adapt.

To be honest id be also inclined to agree with that, me for one on their current performances, im not driving up from south and paying overnight hotels anymore till I see something worth travelling for, and that i can justify my espense. Very dissapointed.

Re: Is this season a write off? : Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:30 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

You are reading the wrong thing into that comment completely. I follow Mike Appleton on Twitter and visit the Saints FB page too. That comment was a direct response to fans criticising the team for being lazy/no passion, etc. It has absolutely nothing to do with the coach. And that is a matter of fact.

Hmmm, the clubs media officer defending a club employee, whodathunkit?. The problem is that fans have not been complaining on mass about players being lazy or lacking passion though, being poop yes, but not being lazy. So it isn't a matter of fact.

Fact.

Re: Is this season a write off? : Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:43 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

But can't you see that if you change Potter in the above sentence this is exactly how the rest of us feel about Royce.

Yes. So? I disagree with you. I disagreed with you about Potter too. And I can point you to another site where lots of fans hold my POV. I can take you to the terraces where other fans share my POV. To people who speak to the players, who share my POV.

So what?

Re: Is this season a write off? : Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:49 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

Hmmm, the clubs media officer defending a club employee, whodathunkit?.

He wasn't defending anyone. You haven't got a clue what was said whereas I have as would others following him.

The problem is that fans have not been complaining on mass about players being lazy or lacking passion though, being poop yes, but not being lazy. So it isn't a matter of fact.

Actually, it is. Some posters on one internet message board does not represent the whole fanbase. You may have noticed hardly anyone posts on here relative to the number of people who attend a match.

I am sure you have a brain in there somewhere. It may be useful to engage it now and again.

Re: Is this season a write off? : Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:09 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

He wasn't defending anyone. You haven't got a clue what was said whereas I have as would others following him.

How do you know I don't follow him or read the Saints facebook page? Oh, you don't. Idiotic presumptions? From you? I am surprised.

Actually, it is. Some posters on one internet message board does not represent the whole fanbase. You may have noticed hardly anyone posts on here relative to the number of people who attend a match.

Who said this board was the entire fan base? Idiotic presumptions? From you? I am surprised.

I am sure you have a brain in there somewhere. It may be useful to engage it now and again.

Resorting to personal insults again, eh?

There's only one of us that looks stupid on a regular basis.

Re: Is this season a write off? : Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:45 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Yes. So? I disagree with you. I disagreed with you about Potter too. And I can point you to another site where lots of fans hold my POV. I can take you to the terraces where other fans share my POV. To people who speak to the players, who share my POV.

So what?

I was simply pointing out that your arguement that Royce got us to a GF therefore should be given some grace, was not something that you yourself thought the club should have applied to Potter, but where arguing the club should have applied to Royce.

It was not about disagreing with you, just pointing out the juxtaposition of your arguements. You advocate it for one GF coach but not the other. Therefore not a very solid arguement to me.

Whether more people agree with you or not about keeping Royce does not make your reasoning any less of a contradictory point.

SaintsFan wrote:

Absolutely. The knee jerk reaction of Saints was not only ludicrous but an injustice to Royce who only a handful of matches ago had gotten us to within 20 mins of winning the grand final against all the odds and who had clearly made some progress already as our defence was coming along very nicely (bar Jamie's howlers). Hell, even Wigan gave Millward 11 games AND a 75-0 drubbing, and they are the world's worst in RL for sacking coaches surely!

SaintsFan wrote:

You really are a sad, obsessed person aren't you?

I gave Potter a full season. Only during his second season with us did I end up thinking he was rubbish. And I haven't changed my mind since.