Re: WELLENS : Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:15 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

Are you saying that Lomax, Gaskell, Makinson and Wheeler are all poor players. Every single one of them is better than anything you have coming through at Warrington.

Re: WELLENS : Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:19 pm  

Oxford Exile wrote:

:lol:

Read the discussion with jdrocket, I'm sure you'll find it fair.

Also instead of hiding behind emoticons why don't you put forward a reasonable argument as jdrocket did?

Re: WELLENS : Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:38 pm  

Oxford Exile wrote:

:lol:

Name names. With the exception of Evans, I've not seen anything from the youthful Warrington backs (Those that came through Warrington's academy) to match those. Who am I missing?

Re: WELLENS : Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:40 pm  

got to agree with BackrowSaint

Re: WELLENS : Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:57 pm  

Forever In Radlinski's Shadow

Re: WELLENS : Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:02 pm  

jdrocket wrote:

That sounds fair. Cooper at the end of last season and the start of this season has looked a new player. I was worried last season that he wasn't going to make it and I was frustrated that the best players (in the first team) from the academy were from Wales/ Warrington and Cumbria/ Warrington. I wanted a Roby (a star that plays for his true home town club)

I think a good example of Cooper (and to an extent Evans)'s abilities is to look at the last try in Hull game.

With less than a minute on the clock after the drop out and when we really needed a miracle, Cooper moves what looks like 20 metres down with a load of players around him and then he offloads. It was, and I know this is heracy here, Jammeresque.

Trust me, there is nothing I want more than Saints to churn out great players and produce exciting rugby.

I do have a soft spot in my heart for saints (now the streak is well and truly put to bed). That is something I will never have for Wigan or their laughable Ultras.

Sorry missed this post until now.

Cooper sounds a bit like Dixon has been progressing this year? Was solid but unspectacular last year but is starting to make some good line breaks and offering another dimension to his game?

Evans could turn out to be quite handy, his support and offload for Ratchford's try against Broncos(?) was superb.

Re: WELLENS : Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:27 am  

jdrocket wrote:

Makinson is a better fullback than winger and, if i'm not dropping a little bait and being overtly wire bias for irony, he is a good fullback (no where near great from what I have seen though). I would describe him as more Riley than Hodgeson. Better than Pat Richards but will never be a Greensheilds. But he is the best of the new crop of saints youngsters

Would this be former Man of Steel, Pat Richards, who has topped the try scoring lists in both The NRL and Superleague, been superleague's top points scorer, not once but 4 times, one of a select group of players to win Granf Finals in both hemispheres has recently become Wigan's 3rd highest points scorer of all time? Hilarious!

Re: WELLENS : Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:58 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

Would this be former Man of Steel, Pat Richards, who has topped the try scoring lists in both The NRL and Superleague, been superleague's top points scorer, not once but 4 times, one of a select group of players to win Granf Finals in both hemispheres has recently become Wigan's 3rd highest points scorer of all time? Hilarious!

Please tell me you aren't a Wigan fan? Acrually, no unless you started watching rugby in 2010, you know that you are talking out of your booty.

Pat richards is one of the worst fullbacks Wigan have ever had. Fact!

Either learn to read or learn your facts.

Re: WELLENS : Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:07 am  

BackrowSaint wrote:

Sorry missed this post until now.

Cooper sounds a bit like Dixon has been progressing this year? Was solid but unspectacular last year but is starting to make some good line breaks and offering another dimension to his game?

Evans could turn out to be quite handy, his support and offload for Ratchford's try against Broncos(?) was superb.

Yeah. That's a good parralel. I've always been a fan of dixon. He has the right shape and mindset for the game. I think cooper's run at LF (I think) has helped him at prop. He wasthere at the end of last season and with harrison injured he may well take that position again. I would rather have coops there than bridge (who I think is the best centre in SL again) also, it feels great being able to say that one academy player can cover another, injured, academy player and they both be great in that position.

I think the try you are talking about won the try of the month from sky. Evans is looking more at home in the team every week.

I think it'd be fair to say it's been an interesting opening to the season. I thought of a fun point today. After longy left for Hull. The first game was against sts at hull in the fog and sts lost. After pryce left for cats he won the first game against them.

Re: WELLENS : Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:04 am  

Thinking back to when saints was the best side, everything started with wello. He used to beat the first man on every kick return that put us on the front foot but now wello is stopped dead which puts us on the back foot from the start.

We even had Meli and Ade who was good at kick returns (if they caught it) but now with wello and Jamie foster both are stopped dead in the tracks.

I'd kick to these two all day as the is no danger of either breaking the line.