Re: Utterly Pathetic defence : Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:20 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

There isn't a team in the land that has an entire pack of consistent performers. In any case I don't see consistency as the issue. It's cohesion or lack thereof.

I can see your point re. lack of cohesion. I think we're relying on individuals at the moment and the whole side isn't pulling their weight both offensively and defensively. Our defensive structure looks all over the place right now.

Re: Utterly Pathetic defence : Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:24 pm  

Given the negativity on here, I'm scared to check redvee......


I still think the team has enough in it and it's fixable. But the question is will it get fixed?

Re: Utterly Pathetic defence : Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:24 pm  

I would play Gaskell at scrum half and Lomax at stand off, keep Lance away from the half back positions and put him to full back. Lomax and Lance are mis fits in the side at the moment, Simmo is not doing any set plays with these two, he needs to make his mind up what his best back line should be.

Re: Utterly Pathetic defence : Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:25 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

I can see your point re. lack of cohesion. I think we're relying on individuals at the moment and the whole side isn't pulling their weight both offensively and defensively. Our defensive structure looks all over the place right now.

I agree.

We have lazy forwards - they don't leg drive in attack and they don't work hard in defence. And Wello shouldn't be on the pitch. (I never thought I would say that)

Royce won't do it because I think he's soft, but I'd drop one or two of our forwards and stick some newbies in there who will be hungry to show the coach what they can do. It worked a treat for us last season; we should try it again this season, but on this occasion by choice rather than by necessity.

Re: Utterly Pathetic defence : Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

I still think the team has enough in it and it's fixable. But the question is will it get fixed?

Not with the forwards and fullback we have, no.

Re: Utterly Pathetic defence : Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

I can see your point re. lack of cohesion. I think we're relying on individuals at the moment and the whole side isn't pulling their weight both offensively and defensively. Our defensive structure looks all over the place right now.

There's just nobody dragging the team forward and backwards whilst bawling in their ears. Even top class players will look like amateurs if there isn't strong leadership on the pitch.

Now we're finding out precisely what James Graham's true worth was.

Re: Utterly Pathetic defence : Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:29 pm  

Just a thought I had mid week, bit from left field..


Wheeler and Gaskell at halfback???

Personally I think the half back combo of Gaskell and Lomax is fine, we were not short on points. It's the amount coming in not going out!

Re: Utterly Pathetic defence : Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:30 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Now we're finding out precisely what James Graham's true worth was.

He's also missed around the ruck, where he would clean up with Robes.

But then we all knew what Jammer's true worth was. Or at least those of us with eyes in our head did anyway! He is a massive miss and there was a great big Jammer shaped hole on the pitch today with nobody able and/or willing to take on the mantle.

Re: Utterly Pathetic defence : Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:36 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Just a thought I had mid week, bit from left field..


Wheeler and Gaskell at halfback???

That's a hell of a lot of inexperience. Especially if Gaskell has an off day with his kicking like he did today. Wheeler would have to lead the team and I'm not sure he has it in him - yet.

Re: Utterly Pathetic defence : Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:39 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

That's a hell of a lot of inexperience. Especially if Gaskell has an off day with his kicking like he did today. Wheeler would have to lead the team and I'm not sure he has it in him - yet.

I thought Wheeler was going to Wigan?