Re: Perry : Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:34 pm  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

What's that got to do with anything?

If you don't watch Saints how can you judge whether they needed another pre-season game?

We were worse last season when we would go in at halftime nilled on more than one occasion and yet we had more pre-season friendlies last season.

I'm with Royce. He thought we needed a longer break because of the pressure of last season with injuries and the like. I think we have done well so far this season. We have scored in the first half, we have listened to the coach in the second, we have won our first two matches - when did we last do that? - and we are improving. Our big issue is the forwards and whether they are going to man up consistently or whether they are going to be lazy.

Re: Perry : Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:46 pm  

I think we have been "lucky" so far in our opening games in that we have not met any team with obvious form like Wigan, Warrington and London last year. Think our yardstick might be Catalans in a couple of weeks, we need Tony P, Perry, LMS and Franki to up there game by then.

Re: Perry : Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:06 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

I think we have been "lucky" so far in our opening games in that we have not met any team with obvious form like Wigan, Warrington and London last year. Think our yardstick might be Catalans in a couple of weeks, we need Tony P, Perry, LMS and Franki to up there game by then.

Totally agree

Re: Perry : Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:08 pm  

At the match I thought he was average, but when I watched it again on sky I didnt think he did to bad. Give him time

Re: Perry : Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:10 pm  

I agree with that to a point, but also it's possible Royce looked at the fixture list, (potential at that point) and thought we can build up through the opening games rather than have a front loaded pre-season. I was worried after hearing about Widnes that we lacked pre-season. But after Salford we are not a million miles off and for me the front row is just a bit unfit at the moment, from lack of pre-season.

Had our first 4 games been Leeds, Wigan, Warrington, Catalan then Royce may have said we need to be 100% on day one. As it is fitness can be built up through our first 3 or 4 games.

Perry was blowing and moving slow, but he was still also offloading in heavy traffic and we need our backs and Roby to be ready to run off that. TP too had some good runs but could not get his arms loose.

I've read what Pete has said about Perry being an NRL SOO player when he came to us. There is one thing that is true quality lasts, so if its just about his fitness levels, they can be recovered with effort and game time. Would hope TP and Perry play week in and week out as they both need the games and the other props are rotated for now. TP and Perry can have a week off on rotation when they are running at max.

Re: Perry : Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:00 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

If you don't watch Saints how can you judge whether they needed another pre-season game?

We were worse last season when we would go in at halftime nilled on more than one occasion and yet we had more pre-season friendlies last season.

I'm with Royce. He thought we needed a longer break because of the pressure of last season with injuries and the like. I think we have done well so far this season. We have scored in the first half, we have listened to the coach in the second, we have won our first two matches - when did we last do that? - and we are improving. Our big issue is the forwards and whether they are going to man up consistently or whether they are going to be lazy.

I know we don't need any more pre-season games because we already have to plough through 27 of the damn things every year... How many warm up games do you think we need exactly?

Re: Perry : Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:47 pm  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

I know we don't need any more pre-season games because we already have to plough through 27 of the damn things every year... How many warm up games do you think we need exactly?

It's becoming a bit tiresome reading you write this on every single thread. Leeds winning from 5th was a freak occurrence that has happened once in the entirety of Super League. I'm also willing to say it won't happen again for a long time to come. If anything it's a good thing, showing our league has plenty of competition and is getting closer in terms of talent.

Re: Perry : Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:17 am  

BackrowSaint wrote:

It's becoming a bit tiresome reading you write this on every single thread. Leeds winning from 5th was a freak occurrence that has happened once in the entirety of Super League. I'm also willing to say it won't happen again for a long time to come. If anything it's a good thing, showing our league has plenty of competition and is getting closer in terms of talent.

It's a hell of a lot less tiresome than having to sit through 27 hollow, meaningless friendlies every season now... You might not see it as an issue or a problem that our favourite sport is becoming a shallow, emotionless shell, or that the vast majority of games played by my beloved Saints are utterly, utterly meaningless and incapable of sparking any excitement in me (or apparently the many silent thousands at the wake on Friday) at all, but I flippin' well do pal...

And I can't be mythered arguing the ridiculous point again that Leeds winning from 5th was a one-off freak occurrence (it wasn't), that it will never possibly happen again in our lifetimes (it will, frequently), that finishing 1st/2nd grant teams a massive advantage in the playoffs anymore (it simply does no such thing, demonstrably), and that playing hard all season to try to achieve a high league placing is of any benefit (it clearly is not and is self defeating). The "entire history of superleague" is 2 seasons under the "It's a Knockout" system we now labour under as including results from the Top 5 era (when league position indeed did matter a very great deal to a team's playoff chances) in any analysis is a nonsense. A basic statistical analysis of representative "history" so far proves that teams finishing in the top 2 make the final only 50% of the time. Just read my other posts (as you already seem to have done) to put yourself straight on the subject and save me the bother, eh?

Anyway, I'm off to Stadium:MK to renew my season ticket there tomorrow and then off up to the smoke on Tuesday to see them play yet another meaningful, important, tense, exciting league game, the result of which will have a strong bearing on the outcome of their season. I mourn bitterly for the long lost days when I could regularly do the same at Saints games and never in a million years ever considered going to the inferior spectacle of football instead. Sadly I just can't self-delude to the same extent that you, Eddie and Stevo can... At least they get paid for doing it though...

Re: Perry : Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:43 am  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

It's a hell of a lot less tiresome than having to sit through 27 hollow, meaningless friendlies every season now... You might not see it as an issue or a problem that our favourite sport is becoming a shallow, emotionless shell, or that the vast majority of games played by my beloved Saints are utterly, utterly meaningless and incapable of sparking any excitement in me (or apparently the many silent thousands at the wake on Friday) at all, but I flippin' well do pal...

It's true, games against Salford were a cacophony of noise before the play-offs were introduced, absolute pandemonium at KR when Salford came to town.

That's how I remember it.

Re: Perry : Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:52 am  

Saint from Prestwich wrote:

Perry makes Britt look speedy

What are you doing posting on here? You do know we won?

Oh, and I am moving to Prestwich soon. Want to watch the matches together? I think it would be amazing!