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Re: New Stadium Name : Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:04 pm  
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TO be fair to Wigan it actually was.

They landed on their feet. But not all clubs do and some go to the wall and are never seen again.

Renting is no indicment of a club, alot of successful sporting clubs rent. I beleive alot of Stadia in Auz and the USA rent their stadia.

Ownership is not a requirement of success, I'm sure NExt and M&S rent most of their buildings, they are not overly concerned about owning them to make themselves more successful.


The difference here though is that M&S and Next only have to pay rent on loaning a building and all the commercial transactions other than that are kept.

With renting a stadium its different. How much would Wigan be better off if they kept all the money from conferencing and other events at the DW rather than it going to Mr Whelans pockets and Whelco. Other than what they generate on a match day the stadium can't be utilised to generate any extra income outside of games.

Even if Wigan at the time had moved away from Central Park to a new stadium a 50-50 shared ownership with the Football club would have been better than just being the tenants.
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Re: New Stadium Name : Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:12 pm  
bewareshadows wrote:
TO be fair to Wigan it actually was.

They landed on their feet. But not all clubs do and some go to the wall and are never seen again.

Renting is no indicment of a club, alot of successful sporting clubs rent. I beleive alot of Stadia in Auz and the USA rent their stadia.

Ownership is not a requirement of success, I'm sure NExt and M&S rent most of their buildings, they are not overly concerned about owning them to make themselves more successful.


Big difference between renting and long term leasing. Also I don't think Next shares its stores with another competitor brand.
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Re: New Stadium Name : Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:22 pm  
Wigoon still won the league last year so how does that figure in the argument about owning your own stadium? Not owning it is not a barrier to winning.
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Re: New Stadium Name : Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:02 pm  
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Wigoon still won the league last year so how does that figure in the argument about owning your own stadium? Not owning it is not a barrier to winning.


I see the difference lying in the future. Club like Saints, Hull, Leeds, Warrington, Hudds, can use their facilities to genrate considerable amounts of income. Wigoon have very little option available to expand their revenues, other than increasing attendances or shop sales. The off field revenues of a well run club could dwarf whatever the club can generate through the turnstiles at a couple of dozen home game throughout the season.
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Re: New Stadium Name : Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:30 pm  
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I see the difference lying in the future. Club like Saints, Hull, Leeds, Warrington, Hudds, can use their facilities to genrate considerable amounts of income. Wigoon have very little option available to expand their revenues, other than increasing attendances or shop sales. The off field revenues of a well run club could dwarf whatever the club can generate through the turnstiles at a couple of dozen home game throughout the season.


It can make it more difficult yes but that doesn't mean impossible.
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Re: New Stadium Name : Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:49 pm  
New Stadium name to be announced on Tuesday!
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Re: New Stadium Name : Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:51 pm  
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New Stadium name to be announced on Tuesday!


Tres interesant. One wonders what name it could be... The suspense is killing me...

When is the away kit revealed? Are we being ultra cynical and not revealing it until after Christmas so people actually bother to buy the home kit?
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Re: New Stadium Name : Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:55 pm  
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Tres interesant. One wonders what name it could be... The suspense is killing me...

When is the away kit revealed? Are we being ultra cynical and not revealing it until after Christmas so people actually bother to buy the home kit?


Patience!
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Re: New Stadium Name : Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:49 pm  
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New Stadium name to be announced on Tuesday!

On Try Time last night, McManus said it was going to be announced within the next 'two or three weeks' so I figure it is imminent.
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Re: New Stadium Name : Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:51 pm  
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