Re: Wigan at the ptb : Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:01 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

There are still a fair few games to be played. This was always going to be the most difficult 3 weeks of our season. Exiles, Bradford 2 days later, Wigan and Warrington.

If if we beat Warrington, that's 3 points out of 6. Personally I thought we should have been aiming for 4 from this period, but I can live with 3. 1 would be a very poor effort IMHO.

Last night we were out played. But we were far from out played at the Pie dome. It's that old story of consistency for English RL teams. The difference between the 2 games was very little for Wigan. For Saints the difference was massive. Our forwards just did not put in the energy and drive that they did at the DW.

The 2nd half it actually took the backs to try stuff before the forwards actually started to make in roads. All in all a bad night, but luckly for us there are plenty of chances to put it right and with the league being a cup comp at the end, consistency is no longer required to make a good season into a great season.

I still think we are having a good season and I'm not ready to go OTT over a poor game like yesterday.

Puletua is still the guy we where all begging to stay 2 months ago
Graham is still the guy who we where all desperate not to lose (and the only forward to punch through the exiles)
Roby is still the machine who has had an awesome season
Soliola is still the guy who puts in big hits and has tightened up his line defence
Wilkin is still the guy who has been assisting Lomax and Gaskell to control games

So the pack has an off day, in June. September is a long way off to get those things right.

Excellent post.

However, you've missed two, vital points. They decided to have their 'off day' against Wigan! And at home! Not only was that embarrassing to the fans but it also sticks a question mark beside our mental strength.

Re: Wigan at the ptb : Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:04 pm  

cjhatesunion wrote:

Give credit to Wigan who did a job on us from start to finish.

What worries me is that if Roby isn't getting the quick play of the balls we struggle big time,Royce get it sorted please.

Wigan did the job on Roby and Graham who provide Saints main go forward. Saints need some alternative tactics.

Re: Wigan at the ptb : Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:15 pm  

nohalfbacks wrote:

Wigan did the job on Roby and Graham who provide Saints main go forward. Saints need some alternative tactics.

Couldn't agree more mate,hopefully with Leon back soon(and stay injury free) we should get some.

Re: Wigan at the ptb : Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:32 pm  

TheElectricGlidingWarrior wrote:

Fair enough, it's just when you said I thought you was having a a massive whinge.

He was.

Re: Wigan at the ptb : Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:39 pm  

Ovavoo wrote:

He was.

Our Saddened having a whinge about Wigan,give over.

Re: Wigan at the ptb : Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:05 pm  

sir adrian morley wrote:

to get totally thrashed and outplayed by your nearest rivals and home turf tells its own story..i`ll have you a bet now you dont win at ot

You guys would be the experts on that. Ok you might win next Friday but noah was watching the last time you beat us at your place !

Re: Wigan at the ptb : Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:10 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

The gang tackling and laying on is ridiculous. They can take as long as they like and he would rather read a book than penalise them.

Why if the rfl won't employ proper referees aren't we copying them and refusing to move off the tackled player? It's allowing them complete control of the game. Naivity in the coaching and players.

Ignoring the initial whinge, you nailed it in the second part of the post.

Wigan play to the rules, it's up to other teams to do the same.

For what it's worth, I actually though Alibert gave needless penalties against both sides last night. I'd much rather watch a game where a ref lets a few technical infringements go for the good of the spectacle.

Re: Wigan at the ptb : Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:17 pm  

Had a good read of Redvee this morning and the balme seems to all be wellens`s. the fans are calling for him to go. wasnt on his own, the whole team got owned.
Wigan played out their skins and deserved the win.

Re: Wigan at the ptb : Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:28 pm  

SIMMONS OUT

Re: Wigan at the ptb : Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:31 pm  

As has been mentioned I think it just seems a lot longer that Wigan stay in the tackle because most of the time they manage to win the collision and hence become dominant in the tackle. This didn't happen the other way around, but I did notice Saints players came very close to a flop several times as the Wigan players tried to get up. I noticed Foster do it 2 or 3 times, as well as other players. That in itself shows that perhaps Wigan aren't slowing teams down as much as everyone thinks, it's just we are getting quicker ptbs to make the difference look greater.