Re: Wello : Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:42 pm  

I'm worried about next week, obviously. But hopefully Royce will be able to rectify some of the things that went wrong tonight.

Re: Wello : Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:46 pm  

brook40 wrote:

I was allways taught its the player coming forwards job to call the ball,It was over Wello and imo it was down to LMS to call for that ball.

Depends though , if Wello made the call he takes priority over a prop. Wello backing into LMS will also have made it difficult for him to step forward and claim the ball.

Re: Wello : Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:49 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

Depends though , if Wello made the call he takes priority over a prop. Wello backing into LMS will also have made it difficult for him to step forward and claim the ball.

Wellens didn't want to know with that one. He's the fullback, he should be dealing with that. His reactions and movement are just so slow that he's never where he should be.

A classic one was one of Tomkins nothing kicks. Any other fullback in Super League would have swallowed it and made 20 metres easily. Wellens let it bounce and Mackinson ended up fielding it almost directly under the black dot 20 metres out as Wellens hadn't managed to get there.

Re: Wello : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:02 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

I'm worried about next week, obviously. But hopefully Royce will be able to rectify some of the things that went wrong tonight.

To be fair, we can't play any worse.

Re: Wello : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:20 pm  

Paul Wellens didn't have a good game tonight (which is rare by his standards) but if you rewind the tape to the game against Warrington he saved you at least 18 points that night, he was immense.

Given what he's achieved in the game including saving your bacon on quite a few occasions over the years then he's entitled to the odd night off especially in the latter stages of his career.

Re: Wello : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:24 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

Paul Wellens didn't have a good game tonight (which is rare by his standards) but if you rewind the tape to the game against Warrington he saved you at least 18 points that night, he was immense.

Given what he's achieved in the game including saving your bacon on quite a few occasions over the years then he's entitled to the odd night off especially in the latter stages of his career.

He's been poor all season. Saints haven't shown any nostalgic tendancies towards any of the other recent retiring greats so I don't see why Wello should be any different. Knocks me sick saying it because I love the man, but he isn't playing well enough to justify his selection.

Re: Wello : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:26 pm  

saint billy wrote:

Agreed about Wilkin. I thought Lomax was non-exsistant, especially in the first half.

I read a comment earlier on about Lomax looking outstanding and how he was the best young player in superleague but i've got to say I thought he was poor for 60mins tonight. I think the lads an amazing talent and I was gutted he didn't get a place in the England side last week but he just didn't take the game by the scruff of the neck tonight and it was too late when he started to have a dig. I thought Gaskell at the side of him tried to hold it together and his kicking game is excellent but you just needed Lomax to show his hand abit earlier.

Granted it's hard to run a game on the back of a beaten pack.

Re: Wello : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:27 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

He's been poor all season.

That's just BS. He was in amazing form until his heel injury. He just hasn't been the same since. In fact, he's been atrocious.

Re: Wello : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:29 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

He's been poor all season.

Watch the Warrington game again if your brave enough too, Wellens was outstanding that night so he can't have been poor all season. Obviously you know him better than i do as you see him each week, personally i don't think he should have gone for that high ball as it was risky given the conditions, letting Wigan go for it would have been safer as it was on the last and you had plenty of cover around that area.

Re: Wello : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:31 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

Watch the Warrington game again if your brave enough too, Wellens was outstanding that night so he can't have been poor all season. Obviously you know him better than i do as you see him each week, pertsonally i don't think he should have gone for that high ball as it was risky given the conditions, letting Wigan go for it would have been safer as it was on the last and you had plenty of cover around that area.

No, your view is the correct one. He has been awful since coming back from his last injury. Just terrible. But he was on fire before he limped off at Wigan last time we met.