Re: 19 man squad for Hull announced : Sun May 01, 2011 8:29 am  

I've not seen Ashe play this year but I'd be extremely worried if he started at full back tomorrow.

He was terrorised by Wigan in the u20s grand final last year & ended up on the wing with Lee Gaskell switching to full back that day. Both players improved for the switch as it happens.

I seem to remember him as being of a very slight build so if he's in the 17 I'd want him on the bench & maybe only coming onto the wing.

This is not based on extensive experience of the kid, I just wouldn't want him put in the firing line at full back and his career damaged if he needs a bit more time.

Re: 19 man squad for Hull announced : Sun May 01, 2011 8:34 am  

Tony Stark wrote:

My concern is that when we do have a fully fit squad are we running the risk of losing a large number of these kids all in one go a la Wigan with Robinson, Brown et al?

We are bound to lose some because we can't keep them all. However, the only positive to come out of our current injury crisis is that young players have an opportunity to showcase their talent at first grade, which gives both the player and the club a chance to assess whether they should be part of the first team squad in the future. This will also have the effect of keeping our present first team young players on their toes, which is always a good idea!

I think the greatest competition will come at stand off. We have loads of them. Pity we weren't producing some talented scrum halves to go with them!

Re: 19 man squad for Hull announced : Sun May 01, 2011 8:36 am  

Noggy wrote:

I've not seen Ashe play this year but I'd be extremely worried if he started at full back tomorrow.

Then maybe Royce is thinking of playing him at stand off? With Armstrong at fullback? Whoever plays fullback tomorrow is going to be terrorised I think! In fact, I'm sure they will be chomping at the bit to take our young and inexperienced team apart at every opportunity.

Re: 19 man squad for Hull announced : Sun May 01, 2011 8:54 am  

With Huddersfield losing last night it should give Saints that added determination to win tomorrow and sit on top of the ladder if we do so.

Re: 19 man squad for Hull announced : Sun May 01, 2011 11:54 am  

Absolutley.

I've given up saying we will not win the next game because of injuries. There is not a tougher game than a Wigan Saints Derby when you are 2 subs down and we still came back and were 60 seconds from winning.

I'm going to be positive and say that the kids will once again step up and not be a walk over for any team. Hull FC hopefully will see what's coming and be expecting an easier run that they are actually going to get.

We now have Graham, LMS, Perry that's 3 props, we've not had 3 for some time now and although at least 2 are carrying injuries it's still an improvement.

COYS, with those 3 taking the hits it will provide Puletua with the back up he needs to rip it up the middle and lets not forget the AWESOME ONE Roby. If our players can just learn to catch a ball he will give us plenty of half breaks that can lead to tries.

I just hope he's brought his wet fish to slap anyone who bombs catches on him this week.

Meli Foster, may not be our first choice from the start of the year, but it's pretty much the first choice pairing. As is Shenton and Gardner.

The 2nd row of Wilkin and Soliola is as good as soliola and flannery.

really our only weak spots are at halfback and fullback and on the bench.

They are key positions I know, but if we can keep a tough tight first line of defence, then we can limit the exposure to the fullback having to cover in defence and Armstrong was not that bad last week.

As for halfback, well kicking for territory will be key. We need someone who can find the ground like Gaskell had been doing as it makes it so much easier for the defensive line. On the creative side well we know what Eastmond can do if he feels like it, but that's down to him really, either he wants to play or he doesn't.

If he wants to play he could be very effective, if he doesn't we may have to consider yanking him off at some point to limit the negative impact on the side.

The bench well they will just have to hold a tough defensive line to give the big names a rest, so they can return and do the damage after being spelled.


COYS, C O Y S

Get in there lads.

Re: 19 man squad for Hull announced : Sun May 01, 2011 12:07 pm  

Bench is horrific.

Re: 19 man squad for Hull announced : Sun May 01, 2011 12:17 pm  

The pack looks good, but with no direction from the halfbacks its going to be tough, alot of pressure on Robes, but he seems able to take whatever we throw at him

Re: 19 man squad for Hull announced : Sun May 01, 2011 12:18 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Bench is horrific.

With Perry's return it's stronger than it has been in weeks. I'm quietly confident tomorrow, if Eastmond turns up.

COYS!!

Re: 19 man squad for Hull announced : Sun May 01, 2011 12:29 pm  

I think how well we compete will depend in part on our ability to defend well and in part on whether Kyle and Josh Perry are actually fit to play. They were both only possibles and so although they have been named, I won't be convinced either are fit to play until they appear on the pitch. Even then I'll have my doubts. I just can't see how Kyle could have recovered from a chest infection that wouldn't allow him to run 10 hard minutes on a treadmill last Saturday in one week and I'm naturally suspicious of a recovery from a groin problem after the experience with Leon.

Also, a friend of the family said that Royce Simmons was on Radio Merseyside saying that there are fourteen players he cannot play tomorrow. He may well be including the two u20s injuries in that (Forster and another one who I can't remember) or he may be referring to the twelve (including Kyle and Josh) plus two we didn't know about. I suppose we will just have to wait and see who turns up at the KC.

Re: 19 man squad for Hull announced : Sun May 01, 2011 1:46 pm  

I think we're going to come a cropper somewhere and sooner or later we're going to cop a battering. The kids have done a truly wonderful job when they have come in, but you can see the effect it's having on the few senior players we have. They are all knackered, not April/May knackered, but looking like they've played a whole season without a break knackered.