Re: Eastmond at FT : Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:19 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

When was Kyle voted Man of Steel? When was he best metre maker for two years running? How often has Kyle been chosen for representative honours or as a member of the dream team? How many times has Kyle fired up the pack to move forward when we were being pounded by Wigan or Leeds? James Graham has more than earned his right to make up his mind about his future in his own time. Kyle Eastmond has not. That is the difference.

Jesus Christ, Kyle has only played 40 odd times and still is only 20 yet scored alot of points and played scrumhalf for England.

No matter how you paint it, they have done/doing the same thing by not telling us what's they doing and leaving the squad unsettled.

Re: Eastmond at FT : Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:30 pm  

Graham is a Saints legend.
Eastmond is not.

It really can't be put any simpler than that.

Re: Eastmond at FT : Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:39 pm  

Graham will be in a Warrington shirt next season to replace Morley who is off to Salford. Will you all be booing him now?

Re: Eastmond at FT : Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:56 pm  

mark_m wrote:

Graham will be in a Warrington shirt next season to replace Morley who is off to Salford. Will you all be booing him now?

Graham will be in an NRL shirt or some team or another next season.

Re: Eastmond at FT : Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:35 pm  

For me the difference is straight forward, Eastmond is leaving for another sport, Rugby League is seeing zero return for thier investment, Graham staying with our sport, will almost certainly be going down under, increasing his experience, becoming a better more experienced player, providing a role model for our kids ambitions.

Not sure i'd go as far to say Graham is a Saints legend though, however hes going the right way about being a Rugby League legend.

Re: Eastmond at FT : Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:01 pm  

The Jamster wrote:

For me the difference is straight forward, Eastmond is leaving for another sport, Rugby League is seeing zero return for thier investment, Graham staying with our sport, will almost certainly be going down under, increasing his experience, becoming a better more experienced player, providing a role model for our kids ambitions.

Not sure i'd go as far to say Graham is a Saints legend though, however hes going the right way about being a Rugby League legend.

So you'd be happy for him to go Wigan?

At least he'll still be in rugby league.

Re: Eastmond at FT : Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:07 pm  

Graham is in Saints top three props during the last twenty years.

Ward is the best I've seen, then it's a split decision between Graham and Fairleigh. The latter was more spectacular whilst the former has been outstanding in a Saints shirt for longer.

And it's not just a question of performances. Graham's professionalism, relationship with the crowd and leadership when the going got tough make him an easy candidate for "Legend" status.

Eastmond, on the other hand, is just a talented scrum half with lots of potential. He hasn't eclipsed or even approached the achievements of Long, Goulding or even Holding. Three players who did not achieve on the world stage what Fairleigh and Ward did.

Re: Eastmond at FT : Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:27 pm  

mark_m wrote:

Graham will be in a Warrington shirt next season to replace Morley who is off to Salford. Will you all be booing him now?

7/10. Obvious, but not bad.

Re: Eastmond at FT : Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:25 pm  

St pete wrote:

So you'd be happy for him to go Wigan?

At least he'll still be in rugby league.

I wouldn't be happy for him to go anywere to be honest, but thats just me, and us, having unrelalistic expectations of our Sports PROFESSIONALS loyalty.

If Saints cannot offer him the contract he wants but Wigan (to take your example) can then that indeed would sting a little, but whos fault would that be? Certainly not the player's fault.

Re: Eastmond at FT : Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:00 pm  

The Jamster wrote:

I wouldn't be happy for him to go anywere to be honest, but thats just me, and us, having unrelalistic expectations of our Sports PROFESSIONALS loyalty.

If Saints cannot offer him the contract he wants but Wigan (to take your example) can then that indeed would sting a little, but whos fault would that be? Certainly not the player's fault.

It's certainly not the players fault and is that the same with eastmond then?

Nobody can ever blame for taking the money as players only have 10/12 years to earn good money but let's treat all the players the same who decide to follow the pound signs!