Re: Saddened! right again - Quins post mortem : Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:50 am  

entatpat wrote:

Tonight:
1 - Wellens 3/10 Like public transport. Late, slow and stunk. He's not even Mr Reliable anymore

1 - Laboured return by Wellens +1.5 metres


I'm not a Saints fan and you guys obviously see him play a lot more than me but maybe you should give Wellens a bit of slack. He's playing with damaged ribs. This i know because my mrs works with his sister-in-law.

Thought for years that a team as good as Saints should have a much better full back. Been far too slow for years (remember the giant Ali Lauititi out-pacing him in a chase to the line a few years back). Seems like a nice guy but, Saints you could do a lot better.

Re: Saddened! right again - Quins post mortem : Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:08 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

I notice you don't argue with any of the points I made.

I don't count grains of sand on Formby beach, either.

Re: Saddened! right again - Quins post mortem : Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:41 pm  

Wouldn't read too much into this result other than Quins with a new coach look like Quins with a new team.

They are playing nearly text book rugby, few mistakes, few penalties, quick play the balls, neat kicking game and good defence.

Saints with a new coach also look like Saints with a new team, a team that has forgotten how to motivate themselves (unless they are playing Wigan) and offering bollockings rather than encouragement when someone cocks up.

You'll never replace KC because he was a one off but whilst he was playing, I never once witnessed him critising his team mates, or turning his back on someone because they'd made a mistake.

Unlike a certain Mr Graham.

Re: Saddened! right again - Quins post mortem : Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:55 pm  

I get more excited watching the new stadium webcams than watching Saints at the moment.

Re: Saddened! right again - Quins post mortem : Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:39 pm  

Birkbygiant wrote:

You sound bitter

got it in one, exeter rhino, go and enjoy your massive win over salford.

Re: Saddened! right again - Quins post mortem : Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:52 pm  

well i posted ages ago we would be in the bottom six. We have not improved since 2006 but gone downhill. We have had our time in the sun, time for others. We need new backs and to stop giving contracts to over the hill aussies/kiwis.

Lets face it we will not win owt. Thank god for salford and wakefield.

Re: Saddened! right again - Quins post mortem : Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:26 pm  

I do not accept the excuse about young players and inexperienced players, we have had the same for many seasons now, as a few have truthfully admitted it was the way Quins approached last nights game and the attitude on the pitch that brought the success, if it is just down to a new coach at The Stoop, then it has worked even if he is only aged 30 and has not coached a Super League club before.

Re: Saddened! right again - Quins post mortem : Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:49 pm  

morleys_deckchair wrote:

2 of those were rested because we have strength in depth... 1 has had an operation.

you got beat by quins at home.

you really shouldn't be laughing.

You are missing the point. The poster was making a statement about all the team vs Wakey were under 25 - which I agree is really good and should be appauded.
My point is that the only reason that was because a lot of the oldies who are over that age are injured and your full strength first choice team team would have a lot few er of these young talented players.
Things have improved since Smith got the job, but before that, under cullen and his sucessor, wire would only play a young player if a "senior" player was injured - that was their only chance and even then it wasn't much of a chance as they were usually dropped when the injuered player became available.

Re: Saddened! right again - Quins post mortem : Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:59 pm  

Trav2005 wrote:

We have not improved since 2006 but gone downhill.

I think that's not a good comparison. The 2006 squad is one of the high water marks in SL. It was bolstered by money that may not be available again (or at least not for many years). Chairmen today would suffer cardiac arrest if they had to invest the kind of cash we did in Sculthorpe. If we're now saying that the 2006 squad is the "minimum standard" expected as far as playing talent is concerned we're going to be beating ourselves up for many seasons to come.

Re: Saddened! right again - Quins post mortem : Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:47 pm  

I was trying to say that was our best squad ever and we have let players go or have retired etc. Not that we have to get back to that standard of that team. It's just a fact we have gone downhill since then we never replaced players who left with like for like or even lower standard just make do with what we have.

We need to man up get over it and accept all efforts have gone into the new stadium. Wigan and warrington are better and will fight for the silverware. We are now what they once were on the outside looking in.