Re: What A Joke!? : Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:35 am  

I wasn't having a go at his defence.

Re: What A Joke!? : Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:38 am  

McClennan wrote:

I agree on Wellens. For the past three years a few of us have been warning about the aging process and it has caught up with him. Yes he's still strong in the tackle but he is beyond average pace now and poses zero threat returning the ball. In the past he would usually beat the first tackler but because he is so slow now he is getting tackled quite easily. In the modern game we need a speedy guy at full back. It's too late for us to do something about it this year but we cannot afford to be in the same position next season.

I definitely see where you're coming from on this. Look how much of a difference Sam Tomkins has made to Wigan playing in that position.

Re: What A Joke!? : Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:47 am  

We did exactly the same thing with Veivers where we stuck with him for too long at full back. It wasn't until David Lyon (the real one) joined us that we moved forward in that area. Break the bank for Billy Slater next year!

Re: What A Joke!? : Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:47 am  

Or Jarrod Hayne.

Re: What A Joke!? : Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:09 pm  

McClennan wrote:

We did exactly the same thing with Veivers where we stuck with him for too long at full back. It wasn't until David Lyon (the real one) joined us that we moved forward in that area. Break the bank for Billy Slater next year!

I think the issue with Wello would be what we'd do with him if he wasnt in the team at FB .. he's not as versatile as Vievers was imo and in the age of the Salary cap for me if he isnt good enough to be first choice we should doing what Salford did with Alker and either be moving him onto the staff or letting him go ...

Re: What A Joke!? : Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:49 pm  

The problem with Wellens is as soon as the kick goes behind him, he's very ineffective. By the time he has retrieved the ball, the chase isn't far away, and the chase need only be 2 defenders because Wello doesn't have the pace to get around them. This means we're starting every set 10-15 metres further back than our opposition.

Re: What A Joke!? : Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:10 pm  

jamie b grow a pair and get behind your team if been there when wire were getting battered and wigan fans stayed loyal and still turned out when they were struggling get behind the team and stop moaning

Re: What A Joke!? : Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:33 am  

Oxford Exile wrote:

your back line was very quiet tonight...particularly the centres.

Quiet ? They never got a bloody pass thats why ! One man barge and no halfback.

Re: What A Joke!? : Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:18 pm  

were not w*** anymore wrote:

jamie b grow a pair and get behind your team if been there when wire were getting battered and wigan fans stayed loyal and still turned out when they were struggling get behind the team and stop moaning

I am behind the team, just moaning about the way we've played, iv been watching Saints on the end of some bad defeats but against Warrington was terrible but I still think we will improve so I think you will find that I'm
fully behind the Saints as have been for years just stating hat it was a very bad performance and hope we can improve from it

Re: What A Joke!? : Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:01 pm  

Saint Jamie B wrote:

I am behind the team... just stating hat it was a very bad performance and hope we can improve from it

Then say that, don't start claiming that after 3 games into the season that we aren't going to be in the hunt, as past seasons have proved nothing is won or lost in the first few weeks of the season.

I honestly despair at some of our fans at times.