Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:47 am  

St pete wrote:

It's not just a case of last night with wilkin tho mate, he's been shocking for about 3/4 years now.

He's not been shocking, i think thats very harsh. I'm a fan of Wilkin tbh, but we have a lot of players, including the youngsters who are coming through, who are not big enough or fast enough to cause the opposition any real threat and i think that could probably be said of Wilkin. Wilkin however has a good rugby brain, if only he was a foot taller and a stone heavier or 3 yards faster, but that can be said about quite a few in our team.

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:05 pm  

saint billy wrote:

He's not been shocking, i think thats very harsh. I'm a fan of Wilkin tbh, but we have a lot of players, including the youngsters who are coming through, who are not big enough or fast enough to cause the opposition any real threat and i think that could probably be said of Wilkin. Wilkin however has a good rugby brain, if only he was a foot taller and a stone heavier or 3 yards faster, but that can be said about quite a few in our team.

Do you think wilkin is much better than clough, dixon or ashurst ?

I used to be wilkins biggest fan, he was my fave player but i saw a change in him, he became a big time charlie, he believed all the hype.

If he put the effort in to playing rugby like he does with his media work then he would improve a great deal.

We all know he's looking forward for when he retires but first he needs to give his all tpo the club and the fans that pay this big time charlie is wages.

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:23 pm  

cjhatesunion wrote:

Come on Wilkin is not THAT bad.

nobody is

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:24 pm  

St pete wrote:

Do you think wilkin is much better than clough, dixon or ashurst ?

I used to be wilkins biggest fan, he was my fave player but i saw a change in him, he became a big time charlie, he believed all the hype.

If he put the effort in to playing rugby like he does with his media work then he would improve a great deal.

We all know he's looking forward for when he retires but first he needs to give his all tpo the club and the fans that pay this big time charlie is wages.

I do think he is better than Clough, Dixon and Ashurst yes. Wilkin works as hard as those players in defence, makes more yards in attack (apart from maybe Clough) and also offers something in terms of creativity and versatility to the team.

I do however think that Wilkin had the potential to be a world class player, but he didn't progress and reach his maximum potential, but that doesn't mean hes a rubbish player. I don't blame him for doing a bit of media aside from Rugby at the end of the day he needs to look after himself and hes making sure he has something he can do when his career is over, and thats fair enough, IMO. I know what your saying though, maybe he has believed the hype, or maybe a coach has pulled him to one side and told him he needs to focus on his defence more, hence taking something in attack out of his game, who knows. As i've said, we have a lot of players that like size and speed, they don't have one or the other, there just in between somewhere, and Wilkin is one of those players.

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:28 pm  

saint billy wrote:

I do think he is better than Clough, Dixon and Ashurst yes. Wilkin works as hard as those players in defence, makes more yards in attack (apart from maybe Clough) and also offers something in terms of creativity and versatility to the team.

I do however think that Wilkin had the potential to be a world class player, but he didn't progress and reach his maximum potential, but that doesn't mean hes a rubbish player. I don't blame him for doing a bit of media aside from Rugby at the end of the day he needs to look after himself and hes making sure he has something he can do when his career is over, and thats fair enough, IMO. I know what your saying though, maybe he has believed the hype, or maybe a coach has pulled him to one side and told him he needs to focus on his defence more, hence taking something in attack out of his game, who knows. As i've said, we have a lot of players that like size and speed, they don't have one or the other, there just in between somewhere, and Wilkin is one of those players.

To be fair, it's hard to compare clough and wilkin as clough is more a prop style player.

I don't think the is much between dixon and wilkin apart from wilkin is a so called big name.

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:33 pm  

St pete wrote: To be fair, it's hard to compare clough and wilkin as clough is more a prop style player. I don't think the is much between dixon and wilkin apart from wilkin is a so called big name. I agree with Clough, it is difficult to compare. The stats between the two favour Wilkin quite considerably tbh. Wilkin V Dixon Apart from Penalties and Errors, everything else is easily in Wilkins favour.

St pete wrote: To be fair, it's hard to compare clough and wilkin as clough is more a prop style player. I don't think the is much between dixon and wilkin apart from wilkin is a so called big name. I agree with Clough, it is difficult to compare. The stats between the two favour Wilkin quite considerably tbh. Wilkin V Dixon Apart from Penalties and Errors, everything else is easily in Wilkins favour.

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:39 pm  

saint billy wrote: I agree with Clough, it is difficult to compare. The stats between the two favour Wilkin quite considerably tbh. Wilkin V Dixon Apart from Penalties and Errors, everything else is easily in Wilkins favour. The stats do go in wilkin favour but i think wilkin has done alot more mins than dixon.

saint billy wrote: I agree with Clough, it is difficult to compare. The stats between the two favour Wilkin quite considerably tbh. Wilkin V Dixon Apart from Penalties and Errors, everything else is easily in Wilkins favour. The stats do go in wilkin favour but i think wilkin has done alot more mins than dixon.

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:40 pm  

Chief Scout wrote:

I hate the guy!

Up his own borrom and a awfull rugby league player! Please leave our club as soon as possible!!

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:53 pm  

Chief Scout wrote:

I hate the guy!

Up his own borrom and a awfull rugby league player! Please leave our club as soon as possible!!

I think he's a rubbish rugby league player but a little harsh to say you hate him.

I don't hate him, i just think he's crap.

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:21 pm  

Noel Cleal wrote:

Is it just me or has nobody pointed out what a pudding Flannery was. Was rounded twice by Tomkins and Leuleui. While he was also at fault in defence for the first try. He was definately targetted and exposed by Wigan.

Wilkin still seems to be stuggling with his shoulder/neck injury. I think he actually had a reasonable game given his poor form recently. I just wish that he would use the time he writes articles and blogging on becoming the player he should be. He is not a bad player but he should be a hell of a lot better at this point of his career.

Yes I pointed it out earlier in this thread:

Thought he was chronic tonight. No pace, no ideas.

There were two worse players than him tonight though:
1. Flannery. Got to be the slowest player on the pitch when the goons scored their third try he had made a tackle but couldn't be arrised getting up - he just stayed on the floor while the rest of the team were trying to get the defensive line sorted.Then they scored.
2. Meli "am I playng centre or wing? sod it I'll do something in between instead" followed by "who was that going past me"

Back to wilkin. He only got a bit better when he lost the plot over silverfool's increasingly bizarre decisions.

When I got back to warry the two main things everyone in my local said were how slow flanno was and also how inconsistant silverwood was. That was my view also.