Re: Rubbish, sack the coach!!!!! : Sun Mar 06, 2016 7:36 am  

Wilkin, not for the first time, was our top tackler. He missed 5 of 39 (13%), but there were plenty who attempted fewer tackles and had a higher miss rate: Dawson missed 33% of his, McDonnell 40%, Turner 42%, Walsh 25%, Walmsley 15%. So, while I agree that our defence looks ineffective and that one factor in that ineffectiveness is poor tackling, it's odd to pick out Wilkin as a particular offender.

Re: Rubbish, sack the coach!!!!! : Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:20 pm  

Maybe I'm the odd one out but I enjoyed Fridays game.

I don't expect to see free flowing rugby on a wet windy evening in March.

It was a tight evenly fought game of rugby where the result was in doubt until the last minute and I think it's fair to say that if Roberts had stayed on the result may have been different, but that's rugby.

Yes players miss tackles but sometimes you have to credit the opposition.

I preferred the shape of the team in the second half with Turner at centre and Fages in the half backs, in this case the change was caused by Swifts injury but maybe Fages is best used as a second half sub to run at tired legs.


Maybe I'm a glass half-full type of guy

Re: Rubbish, sack the coach!!!!! : Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:37 pm  

Hawkandro wrote:

That does not sound like LMS at all...

Strange, but true, he didn't give away a single penalty on Friday.

Which game was Judder Man watching?

Re: Rubbish, sack the coach!!!!! : Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:45 pm  

Saint Rabban wrote:

Strange, but true, he didn't give away a single penalty on Friday.

Which game was Judder Man watching?

The stats haven't shown it, but he gave away a penalty on the 5th tackle for lying on around the half way line, myself and half a dozen others were cursing him for doing it as it just piggy backed Cas up the field. LMS is one of our worse offenders in the team for it.

Don't think the stats are right for Amor either, he missed 4 tackles, 2 of them when he rushed out of the defensive line grabbed and missed and he also failed on both occasions for Castlefords 1st and 3rd try.

Re: Rubbish, sack the coach!!!!! : Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:03 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

The stats haven't shown it, but he gave away a penalty on the 5th tackle for lying on around the half way line, myself and half a dozen others were cursing him for doing it as it just piggy backed Cas up the field. LMS is one of our worse offenders in the team for it.

Don't think the stats are right for Amor either, he missed 4 tackles, 2 of them when he rushed out of the defensive line grabbed and missed and he also failed on both occasions for Castlefords 1st and 3rd try.

Cas's first try was caused because Vea slipped when coming off the line, Amor tried to cover from marker but got stood up as a result. the third try came about because Amor came off the line and Vea didnt.

LMS is frustrating with his penalties, and is seemingly offering ever decreasing returns.

Wilkin, regardless of percentages, is 4th for missed tackles across the whole of the SL.

Our entire back row needs a shake up imo.

Re: Rubbish, sack the coach!!!!! : Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:36 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Just goes to show what people focus on. The radio Leeds commentators gave huge credit to Amor said he had a massive for Saints.

Amor got through mountain of work in first 20 mins. He was taking it in 2 times in each set at times

Re: Rubbish, sack the coach!!!!! : Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:39 pm  

Simeon Stylites wrote:

Wilkin, not for the first time, was our top tackler. He missed 5 of 39 (13%), but there were plenty who attempted fewer tackles and had a higher miss rate: Dawson missed 33% of his, McDonnell 40%, Turner 42%, Walsh 25%, Walmsley 15%. So, while I agree that our defence looks ineffective and that one factor in that ineffectiveness is poor tackling, it's odd to pick out Wilkin as a particular offender.

Wilkin did stick out like sore thumb for his missed tackles as he seems to be left on the ground and then you see him slowly running back into the line so it stands out.

Re: Rubbish, sack the coach!!!!! : Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:40 pm  

Does anyone know the extent of Swift's injury? The lad has been fantastic for us in my opinion. He's probably the only one in the team I would back to go full length of the pitch from broken play, has great footwork, defence and an excellent attitude IMO and I love how he never gives up a lost cause, cutting across field to make sure an opposition player can only score in the corner at the very worst.

Re: Rubbish, sack the coach!!!!! : Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:41 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Cas's first try was caused because Vea slipped when coming off the line, Amor tried to cover from marker but got stood up as a result. the third try came about because Amor came off the line and Vea didnt.

LMS is frustrating with his penalties, and is seemingly offering ever decreasing returns.

Wilkin, regardless of percentages, is 4th for missed tackles across the whole of the SL.

Our entire back row needs a shake up imo.

I've said all last year and this year that our backrow can't tackle. You can't knock Vea and Wilkin for effort in defence but they miss far to many tackles.

Re: Rubbish, sack the coach!!!!! : Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:28 pm  

Simeon Stylites wrote:

Wilkin, not for the first time, was our top tackler. He missed 5 of 39 (13%), but there were plenty who attempted fewer tackles and had a higher miss rate: Dawson missed 33% of his, McDonnell 40%, Turner 42%, Walsh 25%, Walmsley 15%. So, while I agree that our defence looks ineffective and that one factor in that ineffectiveness is poor tackling, it's odd to pick out Wilkin as a particular offender.

The stats dont pick up the ones where he doesnt even attempt a tackle. I think if we could get a stat for breaks made in the gaps either side of Wilkin it would be a very high number.