Re: Worst SL season EVER? Or the best? : Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:22 pm  

theblondebomber wrote:

Germany domestic league have a cap in place and they won the world cup.

If that's true then Bayern must be the Salford of their league to be able to get all them players under the cap.

Re: Worst SL season EVER? Or the best? : Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:28 pm  

St pete wrote:

If that's true then Bayern must be the Salford of their league to be able to get all them players under the cap.

I think there are cost control measures, but not a salary cap per se.

Re: Worst SL season EVER? Or the best? : Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:50 pm  

St pete wrote: If that's true then Bayern must be the Salford of their league to be able to get all them players under the cap. http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheo ... ll-success The prem is possibly the 4th best league in Europe. Just look at the players that have left England in the last 4 seasons, just because its the most paid doesn’t make it better. Plus the German and Spanish structure is better and England. They have for example Man U reserves in the Championship. If they win the league they don’t get promoted. also i hate it when people say the English league is competitive.... So is the Blue Square league... doesn’t make it any good though. I’ve said for years to my mates and work colleagues that I see it like this 1. German league 2. Spanish League 3. Italian League 4. English League 5. French League

St pete wrote: If that's true then Bayern must be the Salford of their league to be able to get all them players under the cap. http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheo ... ll-success The prem is possibly the 4th best league in Europe. Just look at the players that have left England in the last 4 seasons, just because its the most paid doesn’t make it better. Plus the German and Spanish structure is better and England. They have for example Man U reserves in the Championship. If they win the league they don’t get promoted. also i hate it when people say the English league is competitive.... So is the Blue Square league... doesn’t make it any good though. I’ve said for years to my mates and work colleagues that I see it like this 1. German league 2. Spanish League 3. Italian League 4. English League 5. French League

Re: Worst SL season EVER? Or the best? : Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:31 pm  

theblondebomber wrote:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2012/05/german-football-success

The prem is possibly the 4th best league in Europe. Just look at the players that have left England in the last 4 seasons, just because its the most paid doesn’t make it better. Plus the German and Spanish structure is better and England. They have for example Man U reserves in the Championship. If they win the league they don’t get promoted. also i hate it when people say the English league is competitive.... So is the Blue Square league... doesn’t make it any good though.

I’ve said for years to my mates and work colleagues that I see it like this

1. German league
2. Spanish League
3. Italian League
4. English League
5. French League

Competitive wise, the German league is a shocker. Didn't Bayern win it by 20 odd points?

Re: Worst SL season EVER? Or the best? : Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:54 pm  

Lack of 'stars' doesn't help, i don't think. You guys had some brilliant players between the late 90's and late 00's; Sculthorpe, Cunningham, Long, Albert.. Wigan had Farrell, Lam, Radlinski, Dallas.. Bradford had Robbie Paul, Vainikolo. I'm not convined that there's that caliber of player just now, though, that said, is that just the nostalgia goggles? Super League is undoubtedly more competitive now, which surely can only be good, i'd like to think that i know the OP enough via his posts that it's not a case of ''well, we don't win much lately, the sport must be poo''

Re: Worst SL season EVER? Or the best? : Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:53 pm  

100% Wire wrote:

Lack of 'stars' doesn't help, i don't think. You guys had some brilliant players between the late 90's and late 00's; Sculthorpe, Cunningham, Long, Albert.. Wigan had Farrell, Lam, Radlinski, Dallas.. Bradford had Robbie Paul, Vainikolo. I'm not convined that there's that caliber of player just now, though, that said, is that just the nostalgia goggles? Super League is undoubtedly more competitive now, which surely can only be good, i'd like to think that i know the OP enough via his posts that it's not a case of ''well, we don't win much lately, the sport must be poo''

I think that's about right. The teams from about mid-table downwards are pretty much as they've always been - perhaps even a little stronger. The top teams are all quite a bit weaker from not being able to attract top quality NRL players (with the odd arguable exception) or to keep hold of top-notch homegrown players that 10-15 years ago would have stayed put.

Re: Worst SL season EVER? Or the best? : Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:02 am  

theblondebomber wrote:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2012/05/german-football-success

The prem is possibly the 4th best league in Europe. Just look at the players that have left England in the last 4 seasons, just because its the most paid doesn’t make it better. Plus the German and Spanish structure is better and England. They have for example Man U reserves in the Championship. If they win the league they don’t get promoted. also i hate it when people say the English league is competitive.... So is the Blue Square league... doesn’t make it any good though.

I’ve said for years to my mates and work colleagues that I see it like this

1. German league
2. Spanish League
3. Italian League
4. English League
5. French League

No way is the Italian league stronger than the Prem. Also, other than Bayern, the German league is pretty weak - even David Moyes dished out a whupping to a German team in the CL last season!

If you moved United, City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea into the German league they would fill 5 of the top 6 spaces each year and Bayern wouldn't have it all their own way.

Re: Worst SL season EVER? Or the best? : Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:02 am  

theblondebomber wrote:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2012/05/german-football-success

The prem is possibly the 4th best league in Europe. Just look at the players that have left England in the last 4 seasons, just because its the most paid doesn’t make it better. Plus the German and Spanish structure is better and England. They have for example Man U reserves in the Championship. If they win the league they don’t get promoted. also i hate it when people say the English league is competitive.... So is the Blue Square league... doesn’t make it any good though.

I’ve said for years to my mates and work colleagues that I see it like this

1. German league
2. Spanish League
3. Italian League
4. English League
5. French League

No way is the Italian league stronger than the Prem. Also, other than Bayern, the German league is pretty weak - even David Moyes dished out a whupping to a German team in the CL last season!

If you moved United, City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea into the German league they would fill 5 of the top 6 spaces each year and Bayern wouldn't have it all their own way.

Re: Worst SL season EVER? Or the best? : Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:42 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

No way is the Italian league stronger than the Prem. Also, other than Bayern, the German league is pretty weak - even David Moyes dished out a whupping to a German team in the CL last season!

If you moved United, City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea into the German league they would fill 5 of the top 6 spaces each year and Bayern wouldn't have it all their own way.

disagree. If you where to drop the teams from 4-8 from the English league and German league into one league then all the German teams would be on top.

Re: Worst SL season EVER? Or the best? : Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:29 am  

theblondebomber wrote:

disagree. If you where to drop the teams from 4-8 from the English league and German league into one league then all the German teams would be on top.

No way!

It's a one team league with maybe Dortmund being half decent. Look at the scores Bayern won by last year. The German league is a shocker.

None of the Germans would finish in the top 5 other than Bayern