Re: Imperative to finish top : Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:22 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Only if Leeds lose to London and Cas to Warrington. Either one of Leeds or Cas go above us if they win and we don't as they have better points differences than us don't they?

Your assuming we lose? If we win it puts us in a very good position - doesn't have to be pretty, but I assume there's a plan in place given they've had a week off!

Leeds could beat London blindfold, but I'd expect Warrington to beat cas given they're resting everyone before the final. If they don't then it strengthens our chances of securing top 4

Re: Imperative to finish top : Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:30 am  

We can see a weakened Cas side losing to Warrington who have a bit of momentum in superleague. Hull KR gaining a point against has made life a bit harder for Wakefield.
If the Wheeler and Wellens show papers over the big cracks we are capable of a big score to help points difference.
This team needs an 18th man it starts from tonight.

Re: Imperative to finish top : Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:24 am  

Don't know why you are so eager to finish top.

Didn't you win like, 5 LLS on the bounce when you kept losing all those grand finals?

Saints would have just as good a chance from 2nd/3rd as they would from top.

I get that it's a trophy. But do you really want to add another situation where ''they got the booby prize but not the main one''? Because I'm not sure i can see saints winning it now no matter where they finish.

Re: Imperative to finish top : Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:52 am  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Don't know why you are so eager to finish top.

Didn't you win like, 5 LLS on the bounce when you kept losing all those grand finals?

Saints would have just as good a chance from 2nd/3rd as they would from top.

I get that it's a trophy. But do you really want to add another situation where ''they got the booby prize but not the main one''? Because I'm not sure i can see saints winning it now no matter where they finish.

We won't win the big one without walsh, wilkin, lomax and hohaia. It's about getting what we can now and getting something in the cabinet.

Re: Imperative to finish top : Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:45 am  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Don't know why you are so eager to finish top.

Didn't you win like, 5 LLS on the bounce when you kept losing all those grand finals?

Saints would have just as good a chance from 2nd/3rd as they would from top.

I get that it's a trophy. But do you really want to add another situation where ''they got the booby prize but not the main one''? Because I'm not sure i can see saints winning it now no matter where they finish.

We've had a very bare trophy cabinet for a few years now. The likelihood is that without the players we've got missing, we won't be able to contest the main title, so while the LLS shield is both something we have a half decent chance of getting as well as the first bit of silverware we've seen for a while.

Re: Imperative to finish top : Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:19 am  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Don't know why you are so eager to finish top.

It's quite simple, Timmy Ten Names. If we finish top, we would have to face Wire/Cas twice to get to a Grand Final instead of Wigan/Leeds twice. As unlikely as it may be, I'd rather take a slightly easier route (we'd still be underdogs I'd imagine) and let Leeds/Wigan beat each other up.

And no, we didn't win 5 LLS on the bounce.

Re: Imperative to finish top : Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:06 pm  

We have been without silverwear for many years.

Ask the Leeds coach if he would rather have something or nothing.

It's like saying would you rather finish 8th or 9th. Both have little chance of winning the big one, but 8th is still better than 9th.

Also I'm a bit of a traditionalist and still enjoy getting more wins over a season than just in a 4 game competition at the end.

I know people buy the hype, but in reality the Grandfinal is still the same as the premiership was all those years ago.

A valid league competition generates money for clubs a playoff series generates little to no money for the teams. Clubs should be wary of putting out that only the GF matters message, because if no one turns up to watch the league games because they do not matter RL will die very very quickly as the money stops flowing in.

Re: Imperative to finish top : Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:21 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Don't know why you are so eager to finish top.

Didn't you win like, 5 LLS on the bounce when you kept losing all those grand finals?

Saints would have just as good a chance from 2nd/3rd as they would from top.

I get that it's a trophy. But do you really want to add another situation where ''they got the booby prize but not the main one''? Because I'm not sure i can see saints winning it now no matter where they finish.

The only chance of us getting to a grand final and winning it is if we have a "level playing field" and all the top teams lose there full back and half backs. Beating Wakefield tonight might give us a 50/50 of the LLS, a booby prize is probably a bit better than nowt.

Re: Imperative to finish top : Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:25 pm  

Why wouldn't anyone want to finish top? I'd put money on every coach in super league would want to finish top.

Re: Imperative to finish top : Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:49 pm  

St pete wrote:

Why wouldn't anyone want to finish top? I'd put money on every coach in super league would want to finish top.

I have got to agree with you on this one.

I also heard a rumour about next years world club challenge could be between 3 clubs from Australia & 3 clubs from UK, possibly the two grand finalists and the team that finishes top. Have you heard anything about this?
That would definitely be an added incentive to finish top of the pile.