Re: Lance out for 8 weeks : Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:35 pm  

exileinpietown wrote:

How can he be up to it when Brown picks a cart horse such as Wilkin in preference? He's not been out because he's been injured he just hasn't been selected.

And he's behind Wilkin (shamefully) for a reason - for every blinder he has, he has a totally anonymous game.

We all remember the step and inside pass for the Roby try in the first game in the season, great bit of skill, but can you remember anything else that game?

Re: Lance out for 8 weeks : Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:40 am  

exileinpietown wrote:

How can he be up to it when Brown picks a cart horse such as Wilkin in preference? He's not been out because he's been injured he just hasn't been selected.

Wheeler has had plenty of opprtunities this year to rise to the challenge mentally and physically he just hasn,t put a marker down for automatic selection, his career is over at Saints.

Re: Lance out for 8 weeks : Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:07 am  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

And he's behind Wilkin (shamefully) for a reason - for every blinder he has, he has a totally anonymous game.

We all remember the step and inside pass for the Roby try in the first game in the season, great bit of skill, but can you remember anything else that game?

As I remember it he was dangerous throughout that game. He's not really had a good game since, though.

Re: Lance out for 8 weeks : Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:53 am  

Rommel wrote:

:lol:

The sad thing is you'll be right

It is sad, I'm a positive thinker, I'm an optimistic fan, but my support of Wheeler is exhausted and rumours that his approach/lifestyle choices haven't helped him have even made me a little bitter about it.

Re: Lance out for 8 weeks : Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:46 am  

I'm not going to go into any rumours as 99% are made up.

But the stats earlier in the year were something like 58 games in 5 years. Yes he gets bumped about, but that's because there is competition for that spot as there is no clear cut favourite. Or there was no clear cut favourite. But Lance has visiably upped his game.

You can see him trying stuff and whilst it may not always come off, that trying and being involved in the game, puts him ahead of the occasional bit of brilliance once every 5 or 6 games.

Also Lance has seemed up until this point to be a bit more robust.

I would still say that Wheeler can spot a gap or make a play better than Lance , but the lack of consistency and robustness makes picking him more of a gamble than a more steady player.

Re: Lance out for 8 weeks : Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:10 am  

Lance is just out and out better than Wheeler. I've never seen anything in Wheeler that would suggest he's got a future in the game, let alone at Saints. He's one of those kids with a big reputation who has just simply failed to live upto the billing.

Re: Lance out for 8 weeks : Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:21 pm  

Looked like Lance was having a stormer in the London highlights.

Re: Lance out for 8 weeks : Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:29 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Looked like Lance was having a stormer in the London highlights.

He was. Then he was switched to hooker while Robes was having one of his newly introduced rests and that's when Lance was injured, scooting from dummy half.

We will miss Lance, in attack and defence. Damn shame he got injured.

Re: Lance out for 8 weeks : Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:36 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Lance is just out and out better than Wheeler. I've never seen anything in Wheeler that would suggest he's got a future in the game, let alone at Saints. He's one of those kids with a big reputation who has just simply failed to live upto the billing.

Wheeler is a natural gifted No 6 who can change a game, one of his best performances was against the Wigoons at the DW stadium a few years back but he was tackled late and came off with a damaged shoulder.
Its just that years and years of continuous injuries has damaged his and the fans confidence to the point of will he last more than one game, its difficult to be in form on a one game appearance.
I just hope he can string 3 or 4 games together to get some confidence back with the help of Walsh, so I would say support him and give him some encouragement to keep the shirt.

Re: Lance out for 8 weeks : Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:52 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

He was. Then he was switched to hooker while Robes was having one of his newly introduced rests and that's when Lance was injured, scooting from dummy half.

We will miss Lance, in attack and defence. Damn shame he got injured.

Well, most of us have advocated him doing a bit at hooker at some point or the other, so I won't complain about that.

Looking at some of the plays he came up with, it seems he's picked up a few tricks for use in the middle, other than his classic early dummy which we could all see coming. He got pace, he's fairly hard to pull down, he supports well and he can do the odd bit of genius. If he improves on his core playmaking (which many say he has in the recent games) then he'll be a good option at 6. I can't see him coming up with a top kicking game, but hopefully we've got Walsh fit for the playoffs to do that.