Re: Big Mac's view on the new SL structure : Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:05 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

I do worry how London will go in the new structure. Is it better for them in the long term?

London did vote for the new structure? which I do not agree with, I presume with the sell that if you are relegated you can gain promotion in a season. I just look at the longer picture, such as Mark Aston saying last week that team like Sheffield will have to look at going fully pro, are clubs going to spend just to get promoted, then could be down again as quick?

If a new structure was needed I would have gone for two twelve team leagues, one team relegated, one promoted, but a team promoted should have two years in the top league to establish themselves, some day three years?

It is just looking at the wider picture and not what many do and clubs, just parochial, what is best for them!

Re: Big Mac's view on the new SL structure : Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:38 am  

I think you can't look at a team lower down saying they are going fulltime and think they are going to be spending up to the cap. It does not mean they will be going bust, or even going hell for leather for promotion.

Simply with increased revenue there is the oppertunity to go more fullltime.
Some championship clubs already have full time players, I'd look at it as though they are going to be increasing the percentage of the squad going FT.

Those wanting promotion will need a good starting 17, with a squad of PT players beneath that. Then it's a matter of keeping those FT players fit for the end of the season.

Re: Big Mac's view on the new SL structure : Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:19 pm  

But some Super League teams are already struggling, is it best first to get the elite league right? Wakefield, Castleford, Bradford, and without their rich owners you could add London and Salford, of they struggle how will teams promoted survive?

The new trumpeted sponsorship of Super League is no more than Engage was paying, so we are not going forward as a sport, to allow more financial support to more clubs from the championship.

Re: Big Mac's view on the new SL structure : Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:10 pm  

They have had almost 20 years and millions of pounds to get it right. That's almost 1/5 or 1/6th of the sports existence.

At some point you have to move on and stop waiting for some elite clubs to catch up to some mythical point.

With no pressure from below they have squandered the money and the time that they have had. Competition is needed from below. Move on or die. We can't move on if it's a cartel environment.

Re: Big Mac's view on the new SL structure : Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:25 pm  

Nigel Wood and The people who have pushed this new structure through now carry all the responsibility, it has to work, if it does not then at Red Hall if it does not happen before, heads have to roll!

Re: Big Mac's view on the new SL structure : Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:06 am  

going back to a previous post, the clubs walked out over the right to be involved sponsorship and to have a say in the funding of the league NOT the structure of the leagues. Their argument was that the likes of saints, wire, leeds can get big national and international sponsors but the league can't

Re: Big Mac's view on the new SL structure : Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:19 am  

marshman777 wrote:

going back to a previous post, the clubs walked out over the right to be involved sponsorship and to have a say in the funding of the league NOT the structure of the leagues. Their argument was that the likes of saints, wire, leeds can get big national and international sponsors but the league can't

And its an argument thats hard to ignore. If Wire can get Emirates on board then why couldnt the league? Wire are a good side and a good club, but they've only won a few cups, they've never won SL.
We keep getting told that premium brands wont sponsor League because of the income of people who watch it. Well Warrington have dispelled that myth completely.

Re: Big Mac's view on the new SL structure : Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:38 am  

Whilst I agree Premier brands are good for the image. If they don;t offer the cash to match is it a false economy.

I've no idea how much they pay to sponsor the warrington shirt. But if it's decent money then the RFL should really be tapping up the Warrington marketing guys and girls.

Re: Big Mac's view on the new SL structure : Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:18 pm  

I have not seen figures but we are lead to believe that it is one of the biggest deals in British Rugby league history for a club sponsor?
That is the clubs gripe if we can do it why cant you, and the league are saying go away and leave it to us!!

Re: Big Mac's view on the new SL structure : Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:10 pm  

McManus is on Try time tonight I cant wait to hear his thoughts