Re: Saints sign Matty Dawson : Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:49 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

I agree and yet Leeds seem to be able to keep signing/retaining class players .. especially in the pivots and outside (strike) backs where you'd imagine players command the highest salaries

1.Hardaker - International , probably Ratboys understudy
2.Ryan Hall - probably the best winger in SL
3.Kallum Watkins - international centre
4.Joel Moon - top class player who would get in any SL side
5.Tom Briscoe - international winger
6.Danny McGuire - probably past his best now but he'll still be on a top deal
7.Kevin Sinfield - international halfback (like it or not) and captain so wont be playing for peanuts

9. Rob Burrow - International halfback/hooker

Do they have a salary cap ??

Puts our supposed improvements into perspective a little:

Hardaker = Lomax
Hall > Makinson
Watkins > AN Other (Percival?)
Moon > Turner
Briscoe > Swift
McGuire > AN Other (Wheeler? Wilkin?)
Sinfield = Walsh (Hard to judge, who actually plays 7 for Leeds? Is it Sinfield? Walsh is an unknown quantity in SL)

I doubt we'd do all that much better in the pack either.

Re: Saints sign Matty Dawson : Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:07 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Puts our supposed improvements into perspective a little:

Hardaker = Lomax
Hall > Makinson
Watkins > AN Other (Percival?)
Moon > Turner
Briscoe > Swift
McGuire > AN Other (Wheeler? Wilkin?)
Sinfield = Walsh (Hard to judge, who actually plays 7 for Leeds? Is it Sinfield? Walsh is an unknown quantity in SL)

I doubt we'd do all that much better in the pack either.

Ill bite!
Lomax is way, way better than hardaker
I'll give you their wingers, but turner is at very least as good as moon, I'd say much better!
Walsh is also better than Sinfield
And maguire is just terrible

Into the forwards, their best forward will be 36 next year. I'd put out pack next year against theirs any day!

Re: Saints sign Matty Dawson : Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:16 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

Ill bite!
Lomax is way, way better than hardaker
I'll give you their wingers, but turner is at very least as good as moon, I'd say much better!
Walsh is also better than Sinfield
And maguire is just terrible

Into the forwards, their best forward will be 36 next year. I'd put out pack next year against theirs any day!

Disagree about Turner over Moon. I think Moon is a top class centre and should have been Carmonts replacement at Wigan.
You're correct about Peacock, he's been immense this year and should have been man of steel.

Re: Saints sign Matty Dawson : Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:53 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

Ill bite!
Lomax is way, way better than hardaker
I'll give you their wingers, but turner is at very least as good as moon, I'd say much better!
Walsh is also better than Sinfield
And maguire is just terrible

Into the forwards, their best forward will be 36 next year. I'd put out pack next year against theirs any day!

Turner over Moon

Re: Saints sign Matty Dawson : Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:28 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Turner over Moon

Ok, that was a little cheeky, but not funnier than you suggesting hardaker and Lomax are equals!

Re: Saints sign Matty Dawson : Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:50 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

Ok, that was a little cheeky, but not funnier than you suggesting hardaker and Lomax are equals!

Hardaker is a classy player. He's also been selected for England ahead of Lomax, which suggests he's better. I've been cautious and clawed that back to equal.

Re: Saints sign Matty Dawson : Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:52 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Hardaker is a classy player. He's also been selected for England ahead of Lomax, which suggests he's better. I've been cautious and clawed that back to equal.

Who would you rather have at fullback for your team?

Re: Saints sign Matty Dawson : Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:55 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Puts our supposed improvements into perspective a little:

Hardaker = Lomax
Hall > Makinson
Watkins > AN Other (Percival?)
Moon > Turner
Briscoe > Swift
McGuire > AN Other (Wheeler? Wilkin?)
Sinfield = Walsh (Hard to judge, who actually plays 7 for Leeds? Is it Sinfield? Walsh is an unknown quantity in SL)

I doubt we'd do all that much better in the pack either.

Leeds just keep building and doing what we should have done. We just havent had good squad management for a number of years and now it's taking time to get things back on track.

Re: Saints sign Matty Dawson : Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:56 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Who would you rather have at fullback for your team?

Lomax but I'd have Hardaker in a second to play left centre for us. He even looks like Keith Seniors love child (with hair)

Re: Saints sign Matty Dawson : Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:14 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

Lomax but I'd have Hardaker in a second to play left centre for us. He even looks like Keith Seniors love child (with hair)

Is it a situation where all the Saints species would say Lomax, all the Leeds speccies would say Hardaker (and all the Wire fans would say Ratchford)?