Re: Gareth O'Brien : Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:00 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

I agree he isn't Andrew Johns but wheeler is a crock

Perhaps, but when he isn't broken he's a very good hb. There are lots of players who have had horrendous runs of injury's and then come good (admittedly there's a much longer list of players who didn't )

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:02 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

Perhaps, but when he isn't broken he's a very good hb. There are lots of players who have had horrendous runs of injury's and then come good (admittedly there's a much longer list of players who didn't )

Don't get me wrong I'm hoping he's a Tommy Martyn not a Nigel Wright but gambling on Wheeler to stay fit will probably backfire on us

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:04 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

I agree he isn't Andrew Johns but wheeler is a crock

Gaz may not be up to the level of Andrew Johns, but I hope one day he is, you can see how much he improved and developed in a short time with St Helens while he was given match time. He wont be happy at being recalled to keep the bench warm.

Also you may not have to be the best in the world to bring out the best in the players you have around you and work as a team, looking at the responses from saints players to his twitter announcement, Im certain Gaz will be missed off the pitch as much as on the pitch.

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:14 pm  

jacksprat wrote:

Gaz may not be up to the level of Andrew Johns, but I hope one day he is, you can see how much he improved and developed in a short time with St Helens while he was given match time. He wont be happy at being recalled to keep the bench warm.

Also you may not have to be the best in the world to bring out the best in the players you have around you and work as a team, looking at the responses from saints players to his twitter announcement, Im certain Gaz will be missed off the pitch as much as on the pitch.

I'm sure he will be missed and I'm certain he won't have wanted to go back when he was playing regularly especially given he will be lucky to even make the bench never mind the starting 13 .

I wouldn't mind him on the books at saints but I can say now with absolute certainty he will never ever be as good as Andrew Johns , in fact Johns is probably still better than him now.

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:19 pm  

Gareth will play v yourselves and Catalans that's for sure. The injury to Myler will dictate if he plays through the playoffs.

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:20 pm  

jacksprat wrote:

Gaz may not be up to the level of Andrew Johns, but I hope one day he is, you can see how much he improved and developed in a short time with St Helens while he was given match time. He wont be happy at being recalled to keep the bench warm.

Also you may not have to be the best in the world to bring out the best in the players you have around you and work as a team, looking at the responses from saints players to his twitter announcement, Im certain Gaz will be missed off the pitch as much as on the pitch.

He's a nice lad and a talented player, but the fact wire signed ratchford shows the faith they have in him, if he's a chance at a SL career its away from wire and probably not at a big club

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:33 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

The truth is

You never see me on here for days after a Wigan loss. That's what he should say!

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:28 am  

Warrington Wolf wrote: Gareth will play v yourselves and Catalans that's for sure. The injury to Myler will dictate if he plays through the playoffs. "I don't think he's going to be directly needed to play but he'd be unlikely to play against us in the next match and it's unlikely that we'd head into a finals campaign without him as our back-up" http://m.skysports.com/article/rugbyleague//8873538

Warrington Wolf wrote: Gareth will play v yourselves and Catalans that's for sure. The injury to Myler will dictate if he plays through the playoffs. "I don't think he's going to be directly needed to play but he'd be unlikely to play against us in the next match and it's unlikely that we'd head into a finals campaign without him as our back-up" http://m.skysports.com/article/rugbyleague//8873538

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:48 am  

Saying GOB is not Andrew John is missing the point. No one in SL is Andrew johns.
Walsh is not Andrew johns.
We are diminished without GOB. Wheeler is a different half entirely. When we are on top he is great. But he is not someone who I see taking the team around the park. More a player who will inject himself at times of his choosing. So we are not replacing Gob with wheeler. It will be Wilkin back to 7. Then Wheeler if fit at six. More likely lomax and wellens to fb.

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:48 am  

I think they'll stick with Hohaia in the halves now to be honest. Brown won't want to move Lomax from full back and Wilkin will still be the main pivot in the halves. They may put Wellens in there as a temporary measure but I think Hohaia will get the nod now.

I doubt we'll see Wheeler. He hasn't had enough game time this year and we're approaching the business end. We need players who we can rely on to do a steady job.